Saturday, January 17, 2026

His ‘cool’ obsession isn’t ICE or icy Greenland. I bet it’s 'getting chilled.'

The whole Greenland thing has nothing to do with Donald Trump’s claimed ‘national security needs,’ since a healthy NATO is exactly what thwarts Russia. And wrecking NATO is Putin’s dream. It also has nothing to do with ‘rare earths’. (Norway has more and far more easily accessed.) Just like Venezuela had almost nothing to do with ‘oil,’ there are other explanations.

 

Is “Greenland!!” possibly a ploy to divert attention? Sure, from Epstein… but also aiming attention to the far-north, when the next manic strike by imperial confederatism will actually be southward? And much closer to Trump’s Florida estate. 

 

Indeed, what the neo-confederate GOP masters may have in mind is something almost identical to a slave-state ambition way back in the 1850s! And an obsession for mafiosi since 1959. 

 

Keep your eye on Cuba.


     == But let’s get back to Greenland! ==

 

One root reason for Trump’s obsession is much simpler - a narcissistic wish to be remembered forever! In this case, for adding to the USA a territory that looks larger (in a Mercator Map illusion) than Africa! And thus out-doing Jefferson’s Louisiana Purchase. Whereupon maybe Don replaces Tom on Mt. Rushmore!  

 Hm, maybe. But it’s my job to speculate outside normal narratives. So, Iet’s ask… does the Greenland Thing go deeper than just wrecking NATO for Vlad? And Trump wanting to be remembered for some grandiose, map-grabby-grabby? 

 

After all, why should a solipsist care how others remember him, after he is gone? 

 

Or else… will he be ‘gone?’ 

 

Remember that his White House is infested with tech-weirdos, from his VP (Peter Thiel’s hand puppet) to jibbering, would-be Machiavellis like Mencius Moldbug and Stephen Miller, to whoever Elon planted in the staff. And one thing that’s guaranteed to have been broached to the Don is… cryonics. 

 

 

   == The ultimate self-pardon and escape plan! ==

 

Cryonics? We’re talking about body-freezing after death (or nowadays just the head, unless you pay way-extra), with the aim of being revived – or upload-downloaded into a fresh young body – in some future era. 

 

Can you honestly tell me that you doubt Trump would leap at signing a contract, once they tell him about it?

But… how to ensure that revival? Why will future-folks, in that 23rd Century, scientifically-advanced era, go to the effort of repairing all your cells and giving you a great young bod, even if they have the tools and means? 

 

One thing is certain. They won’t do it in fondly-recollected gratitude for goodness or beneficence; not in this case!  Those aren’t Trump’s calls to fame.

 

Most current cryonics customers are at least somewhat rich. I know some who have assured me (perhaps a little frantically) that their investment accounts – funds carefully not bequested to living heirs – will more than pay for revival, someday! A way for rich guys to “take it with me!”  Maybe this explains why Trump needs to ‘acquire’ more and more and more wealth by any means, no matter how filthy… in order to make that mountainous bribe convincing enough to cross centuries!  

 

As if future folk could not simply shrug and say “that’s not how we roll here, great-grampa! We’re adjusting the ledgers, now, and applying that capital to something useful.” 

 

Trying to prevent that -- and force a stable, money-based standard of revival -- may be among the top reasons why Trump… along with some of the other New Lords and Olde Families… are engaging in their current worldwide putsch! A full-court press to end the Enlightenment Experiment and re-establish dismal feudalism. Because a feudal society can ensure the continuity and power of inherited or self-bequeathed wealth. In fact, that’s why feudalism dominated for 6000 years, on five continents!

 

But then, instead of mere lucre, let’s go back to fame! Trump’s passion - for all his life - would naturally extend into purported afterlife! 

 

“They’re sure to revive someone who was as interesting as me!  Or who had such great ratings!” 

 

Fame has always been called a version of immortality, right? And can anyone doubt that the same theme pounds through every fiber of Trump’s being? 

 

And what better way to ensure epic fame than doubling (Tripling? Mercator sextupling?) the size of the United States?

 

    == A modest proposal ==


Which brings us to a weird suggestion. (Weird? From me? Never!) And mind you, I am not actually doing this thing that I’m about to discuss, only speculating about it, as if in a sci fi story. Indeed, I might write it, with all the names changed! 

 

Still, it’s a transactional offer that seems straight off the pages of The Art of the Deal. One that might compel something that we want… without violating any current law, whatsoever. And if I’m right about this motive – consistent with the techie-incel brats who now infest the White House – then it goes straight to the core of Donald Trump’s greatest wish and goal.



“Dear Mister T, have we got a deal for you.

 

“First, if the core supposition of this missive is wrong, then all of what follows is just moot speculation, worthy of a sci-fi flick. 

 

“But given the nature of the men who have been planted around you, it’s a pretty good guess that you have by now been persuaded to make arrangements. For your cadaver – after death – to be cryonically stored, which is by law merely a process for disposing of human remains, like burial or cremation. 

 

“To be perfectly clear – none of us intend in any way to hasten that demise! Indeed, we vow to prevent or delay it, if ever any of us find ourselves in a position to influence such matters.

 

“But let’s assume that an end to this life/incarnation does come (it happens to us all) and that – clutching both a death certificate and a cryonics contract – your body commences a voyage of chilled storage and delayed delivery to some future time. 

 

“In that case, it is inevitable that we or others will discover the facts about that body-disposal arrangement. And hence, we now propose a deal! A non-disclosure agreement or NDA (your favorite kind of agreement), under which we’ll refrain from openly revealing the location of your remains, or in any way acting on that knowledge, providing only that the following terms have been fulfilled –

 

“-- that you have resigned from the office of U.S. president by May 2026… and that you take JD Vance with you. And that whatever foundation or trust you set up, to pay for eventual revival, shall preserve capital for that purpose (what remains after lawsuit settlements), but use the interest in service of what future generations will assess to be good causes.

 

“Again, this is not, in any way, shape or form, a threat to you, as a living human being. Indeed, each of us vows to protect your life and health from harm, if ever any such power presents itself. We are assuming that neither foul play nor self-harm - nor some crazy 'early freezing' - were involved. We expect that you intend to eke out every minute of this life that your health and modern medicine can provide, as do nearly all of us. The topic here is only what happens after 'natural causes.' And whether you intend - as thousands do - for your remains to be entrusted to specialists who have made promises.

 

“Furthermore, we are assured that revealing the location and condition of a corpse is routinely done in a vast majority of burials and/or cremations today. There is no rational reason that yours – perhaps in a secure and guarded refrigeration crypt – should not be a matter of public record and/or historical/archaeological or even medical interest. Some folks may even visit yours as a shrine! Whatever others decide to do with the information is not something we care to even imagine. But if your intention is to keep the actual location secret – even (or especially) from your still-living heirs - then our offer stands. With plenty of time and incentives and out of sheer curiosity, we’ll find it. At which point, the NDA will kick in!

 

“That’s it. A mutually beneficial deal, taken from your book and your business dealings and personal practices. And we who are involved in offering you this deal will feel honor-bound to keep it. And you know that many people do believe in honor. Even if you never did. And we promise to urge others to keep the same deal. Assuming that you keep your side of the bargain.

 

“And now we’re done… except to remind you that crushing the dreams of a vast majority of human beings on this planet may not be the best way to ensure a safe and successful arrival at your desired, promised land of personal immortality.”

 

                == Take the deal, Don ==


Is this entire scenario likely? 

 

I could not possibly venture what the betting odds might be. Only that it is entirely consistent with the openly-stated thinking of the worm-tongues who now surround an impressionable old dementian. And we’re doing him a favor by getting him to reconsider and reexamine the ice-cold-voyage scenario that those Trump-whisperers have been offering him. 

 

There are implications that Moldbug (Yarvin) or Miller or Vance won’t have mentioned. And maybe Donald Trump ought to ponder them.* And consider perhaps sacrificing a little near-term power in exchange for future immortality. And then – through his early absence – allowing us to resume scientific  and social progress that are prerequisites for the kind of future on which his plans depend.


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  ======================= side addenda ============

Well, well. What I posted just before this may be just fantasy from an over-eager imagination... based on knowing some cryonics customers personally. And they range from pro-enlightenment decents all the way to ingrate ‘neo-feudalists’who infest this administration and their loony zillionaire ‘accelerationist prepper‘ backers.


Across that broad spectrum are those who want jus tone thing - to cheat death. Is that too much to ask?

Immortalists, whom I have discussed elsewhere, seek ways to evade nature’s programmed final demise. So let me repeat an important point: some of these fellows - nearly all male - are actually fine guys and not involved in the prepper-feudalist thing at all! They invest in lifespan extension companies and research that might benefit us all. They blog to share the latest advice for healthy living. Some of them are still friends. And I have never - in this article or elsewhere - dissed them for having cryonics contracts! Indeed, this essay is not about whether Donald Trump shouldarrange for freezing after death. By all means, as they say, knock yerself out! This posting is only about knowledge of it, if true. Whether everyone should know if ex-Don is stored… and where.


But there’s something else.


Whether or not there’s a cryonics angle to Donald Trump, I would also offer wager stakes that he’s one of the rich dudes who is buying young blood.


It’s a cult notion that’s based on mouse experiments -- they suppose that transfusions from young healthy human donors will re-set their physical clocks and give them more, vigorous lifespan. (I’m a skeptic; for reasons I discuss here, NO mouse experiments apply very much to humans when it comes to lifespan; bet me on that. Still, there are reports of marginally positive effects.)


Yes, it’s creepy to contemplate, calling to mind the “organlegger” scenarios in Larry Niven’s magnificent early novels. And there’s nothing at present immoral or illegal about it! The young folks are presumably well-paid and can replace the pint they sell within a month. As I do, each time I donate. (I just gave the blood bank pint #108.)

Hey, no coercion, no foul. Though it’s easy to imagine the fetish getting out of hand! In a neo-feudal future.

Anyway, one can well envision why they want to keep it secret, whether or not the purchases and transfusions are legal and completely ethical, mutually beneficial business deals. I can’t blame these fellows for not wanting the lurid (and for now, unfair) “vampire!” accusation.

Is there any way all of this can be exposed for public scrutiny and discussion?

Well, consider how I just bragged over my record of over a hundred blood donations. It prompted me to ask a question that maybe no one asked before: “What do the rich blood-suckers… I mean fair and karma-free blood-buyers… do with the OLD blood that they need to drain from their bods, in order to make room for the good, new stuff?”


I’ll refrain from spelling it out. For now… just think about it. I’ve already given you clues and it opens a wide trail for some Sherlock, or Hercule, or Ms. Marple.


But let me add one more. The BRUISING on Trump’s hands? The cankles? It’s been theorized they come from needle/injection sites. For drugs? Sure. But none of that is inconsistent with desperate-measure transfusions. Though… no… the CLUE that I offered, to answer the paragraph before this one does not apply to Donald Trump… and never will. And that, too, is a clue. 



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*Or the South Park guys.

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duncan cairncross said...

I suspect with the way things work in the USA if the "arrest rate" for officers is a bit higher than for illegal immigrants the actual "crime rate" is a LOT higher!!

David Brin said...

Jibbering capering loon. Citing the Declaration of Independence and 'rights'... not one... not one delegation went to see and negotiate with the duly elected US president Lincoln. Not... one. In the 1770s the continental congress sent MANY - including Franklin - to the King and parliament. Confederate hypocrite slavers yammering about rights... while impoverishing every poor white family in the South.

You are jibbering loonies and dangerous to all of our posterity. And traitors.

Der Oger said...

Star Trek commentator/essayist/comedian Steve Shive has made a piece about Alex Kurtzman meeting Stephen Miller:

https://youtu.be/5FMof1n7sRM?si=sdvVekG8bRkhYTpx

Tony Fisk said...

I gather Bovino has got the boot. Noem is being readied for the plank next.
... and yet, the ship of state continues to sink.

Celt said...
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Celt said...

It's always funny to watch the right do a 180 on 2A rights when it is minorities exercising those rights.

Back in the 60s the black Panthers were formed in Oakland CA. The sight of pissed off black men openly carrying shotguns and rifles (as was their right under California law) put a scare into then governor Ronald Reagan and the other white citizens of California.

They quickly passed the most restrictive gun control laws in the country.

You see similar double standards flying high when MAGA oppose socialism and welfare - unless the money goes to white farmers, banker bailouts, corporations and CEOs.

Or when MAGA oppose illegal dark skinned migrants but never the white business owners that hire them at slave wages.

Such hypocrisy is beneath contempt.

Larry Hart said...

"One of the evil superpowers of (DT) is how he makes you defend or long for institutions that weren't ideal in the first place."

Yes, as a child of the 1960s, I know that the FBI, the local police, and Democratic mayors weren't exactly friends to liberals.

I've wondered if there's a word for nostalgia for songs that you didn't like at the time even though the remind you of a time of your life that you also didn't like at the time. For me, that's how I react to Rod Stewart songs from my senior year in 1978.

Celt said...

Remember those confederate soldiers who basically fought against their own economic interests and died for the wealth of the big planation owners for fear of what would happen if blacks were allowed to roam free?

That's MAGA today.

Celt said...

You mean "Da Bears".

Unknown said...

Alfred, Celt,

Tom Lehrer had it right decades ago:

"We'll try to stay serene and calm,
When Alabama gets the bomb."

The post WWII world 'order', as fractious as it was, is a target of the (I just have to use this) 1/3 Reich. Reichskapo Miller specifically touted 'might makes right' as justification for rumpT's attacks on other nations and threats to Greenland. In order's absence it no longer makes sense to not develop nuclear weapons, and a breakup of the US can't ignore them - though keeping nukes usable isn't a trivial issue.

Pappenheimer

P.S. the support of poor white Southerners for slavery is akin to the 'temporarily embarrassed millionaire' view of many poor Americans who support Republican policies that taxed the rich lightly. The South intended to be an expanding nation, with lands available for citizens/soldiers to get rich from by speculation and acquiring slaves of their own - upward mobility. There was also the need to keep their place in the social hierarchy, where any white man, however degraded, had more rights than any black man.

locumranch said...

You are jibbering loonies and dangerous to all of OUR POSTERITY


What our fine host refuses to acknowledge -- and I use the term 'acknowledge' in the full belief that he possesses a complete understanding of this point -- is that his posterity may overlap with OUR POSTERITY (at times) even though they are non-homologous, as his interests are not necessarily 'our interests'.

Neither a 'US patriot' nor a 'US nationalist' but a communist sympathizer and a 'Soldier of the Enlightenment' by his own admission, his posterity is anathema to 'our posterity' as it requires the gradual replacement, the deliberate impoverishment & the eventual extinction of OUR particular demographic strain of US patriots & nationalists.

And, while it's true that OUR POSTERITY may also benefit from the elimination of the aristocratic & oligarchic ruling classes, it is also true that his posterity is the primary beneficiary of a technocratic ruling class, while each & every non-technocrat is the de facto loser under his hierarchical communist utopia.

So, we rebel, as our very survival as a nation & a demographic depends on it; we will not go gently into that goodnight; and there is literally nothing hypocritical or contemptible about protecting one's own posterity.


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The real hypocrites here are the so-called 'progressives' who celebrate the gradual replacement, impoverishment & elimination of the once dominant US demographic because if these 'Heaven's Gate' progressives actually believed that demographic extinction was such a moral & laudable goal, then they would be the first to off themselves to bring about utopia.

Either lead by example or admit that (at least to us) OUR POSTERITY matters too.

Celt said...

Gee that isn't racist at all.

Catfish 'n Cod said...

Anybody interested in a contextual explainer RE ICE and CBP from Garret Graff, about 5000 words. Now I can tell you the difference between a GS - 1801 and a GS - 1811.

Thanks Moldie, I'll have to add this to my arguments regarding the US Inspectorate. It should not be possible to have a lapse of internal investigation like this at all, much less for such a trivial cause as this. Sloppy on top of bad design.

Locum, on the other hand, is a 'patriot and nationalist' of what Mr. Coates refers to as "The Homeland" and I prefer to think of as "Albionica". He bemoans loss of status for the 'once dominant US demographic' as he defines it -- and I doubt sincerely that he has any sort of durable metric for that 'demographic', as it has always comported to 'whatever best advances the interests of would-be aristocrats' rather than any sort of definable ancestry, measurable trait, or cultural practice. He's certainly not concerned about the "gradual replacement, impoverishment & elimination" of the "once dominant demographic" with ten thousand years' residency.

At least Vance is honest about associating his claim to Boden with acts of conquest and subjugation. "Demographic extinction" -- would that come about with insufficient birthrate, sir? Could you speak about your attitudes on 'mongrelization', or perhaps the greatest terror of last century's Southern power structure, 'miscegenation'? (Admixture of blood was not considered so distasteful when the state was more directly able to align privilege and wealth with bloodline. Just ask the Hemings clan.) Or perhaps I do a disservice: perhaps it is cultural 'extinction' he fears -- insufficient indoctrination, then? Not enough censorship of destabilizing ideas? Advocating changes to society that would benefit the many more than the few?

Do all of our posterity matter? Or just some subset of our posterity that meet our approval, either physically or mentally?

I could go on to discuss how I no more want a technocratic ruling class than any other (as *any* ruling class is a step towards an aristocratic/oligarchic one) and ideas for preventing same, but I can't while someone tries to read future offspring out of the narrative.

Larry Hart said...

"We'll try to stay serene and calm,
When Alabama gets the bomb."


When I first heard that Tom Lehrer album, I was too young to consider just how close to the fight over civil rights it was published. I thought that was just a funny reference to any individual state getting the bomb. Same with the line about sending the Marines "to the shores of Tripoli but NOT to Mississipoli".

Larry Hart said...

what Mr. Coates refers to as "The Homeland" ...

I was creeped out when W established the "Department of Homeland Security" because it sounded too Nazi-ish. From now on, I refer to them as the "Department of Fatherland Security", since that's what it's meant all along.

c plus said...

Lucy and the Football:

A reminder for our American friends of the state of Canadian politics just over a year ago. At that point, Justin Trudeau's popularity, was somewhere between "Serial Killer" and "Hedge fund manager", the Conservatives were 29 points ahead of them in the polls. Conservatives had been talking only about two themes "Trudeau = bad" and "gas taxes suck" for a year. They were due for a win. Canadians typically treat Politicians like diapers (must be changed often, and for the same reasons), the election was in the bag. Didn't matter who they put in to run the party, so may as well pick someone the party faithful enjoyed hearing pwn the libs (Polievre), .

Trudeau resigned, replaced by Carney (who immediately axed the gas tax), and suddenly, everything the Conservaties had advertised about for the last 3 years was on the trash heap. Election became about the matter of the moment (Trump), and Liberals came away with a win.

I dredge this up to encourage you guys to not hyperfocus on only "Trump" or even "Trump + Noemi + Turds in ICE" - the enemies of your country will dump ICE if its a choice between ICE and power. They'll dump Noemi in a heartbeat if they thought it would win them 1 more senate seat. Trump will likely be dead (or in a retirement home) before next election. Don't get caught playing Lucy and the Football.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-185931372 makes the point that "If Trump is no longer able to stay in power, the same forces that elevated him will push their next useful idiot to the front. That’s what makes this moment so dangerous. Because while everyone keeps watching Trump, the machine behind him is still moving. And it’s already preparing for what comes next. This isn’t to say Trump is any less dangerous or any less evil. He is. And at this point, he could very well be thrilled with all of Project 2025—especially during his more lucid moments. But we need to remember there are others still building, still scheming, still laying the foundation for a permanent, mpost-democratic America. And they don’t need Trump to finish the job. They just need enough silence from the rest of us to get away with it."

That's why stuff like OGH's *positive* ideas for how to rebuild American institutions are useful. The details - sure we can argue about one or another of them. But the core idea, that America's defenders need a positive agenda, not just a negative one is key. (The negative one is also useful of course - "these guys can't be trusted with a liquor license at a WWE event, never mind the nuclear codes" is an important message. But it can't be the only message).

David Brin said...

Aw poooor victim locum! Always the victim! While his cult does almost ALL of the violence, wallows in every turpitude and attacks every civilized way of life and every carefully constructed limitation to power. Try it elsewhere, idiot.

You are the corrupt pervs. You are the followers of Putin, Stalin, Hitler and Satan. And my saying so is not an attack upon you. But it is a justification to defend.

David Brin said...

Well, I fear 'cultural extinction' which is what the neo-feudalists plan for this narrow window of enlightenment mid 6000 years of dismal march toward fermi paradox extinction at the hands of inheritance brat lords.

Larry Hart said...

c plus:

Trudeau resigned, replaced by Carney (who immediately axed the gas tax), and suddenly, everything the Conservaties had advertised about for the last 3 years was on the trash heap.

We've had a few of our own incidents like that recently. Republicans were all set to run against Mamdani--making him the scary face of the Democratic Party--and then Trump went and mooned all over the guy. Likewise, while Dems had an uphill battle unseating Susan Collins of Maine, Trump came out against her, making it likely the good guys win that Senate seat.


Election became about the matter of the moment (Trump), and Liberals came away with a win.


Our next election won't be about the price of eggs. It's a referendum on dictatorship vs democracy.


Because while everyone keeps watching Trump, the machine behind him is still moving


True, the MAGA movement didn't start with DJT and won't end with him. But no other Republican has the kind of cult following and brownshirt army that Von Schitzenpantz does. Others may be more evil or more calculating or more competent, but no one else is as dangerous in quite the way that he is.

Unknown said...

I wonder why people like Loc don't look harder at the corner Japan has painted itself into in order to retain its racial and cultural 'purity'*. Japan's birth rate is less than its death rate, and forecast to remain so, with significant economic consequences. A Festung Amerika which shuts off immigration and continues a mass deportation policy - the centerpiece of the 1/3 Reich - is going down the same path. A whiter but smaller and poorer nation, I guess, if it even remains one nation under current stresses.

* Including baseball these days, I guess

Pappenheimer

P.S. meanwhile, back in Venezuela, Nobel Peace Prize still-winner Machado says that her country will hold free and fair elections 'eventually', citing issues with political prisoners still unaccounted for, with fear and coercion still rampant in the country. And are we still still blowing away boats in the Caribbean, which a few weeks ago were described as a deadly threat to the US people? Have we stopped? It seems like it, but the boats probably haven't.

Alfred Differ said...

Celt,

Honest question here. If I consider your analogy in the fullest sense, I should be looking for some group about to be freed from some kind of bondage. Do you mean to carry it that far? Which group do you think is on the verge of being freed if the MAGA folks are defeated?

Alfred Differ said...

It would be overly generous to say it didn't continue here in CA into the 90's. LA burned for a reason. (Hint: LAPD had some interesting policies about hiring and enforcement.)

But yah. None of them were/are ideal. I'm past longing for previous conditions, though. I just want to smack some people in the face.

Alfred Differ said...

Japanese interest in baseball is proving to be a massive cash spigot for the Dodgers. No joke. LOTS of money. We shall have to do something to defend that flow if they are to win the Series again. Bwa-ha-ha! 8)

I like it. 1/3 Reich. I'm gonna use that.

Speaking of cash spigots, I DO have to admit that the Doofus in Chief is fattening my retirement savings. He's producing cyclic behaviors in stock prices again. I know how to play the options market for that ride... and do. About $10K this month without being fully bought in.

Der Oger said...

A German PolSci commentator described the situation as follows: "We are waking up in a zombie movie each morning".
Creating aggressive diversions/main attacks has almost become a cyclical thing, and we will have a new Tariff/ICE raid scandal and protests/Ukraine/Ballhouse/Venezuela/social media takeover/assassination/Greenland thing every other week.
The next likely things to happen are another government shutdown and air strikes vs. Iran.
Thus, they remain in constant attention cycles and dominate the headlines with soundbites, lies and well choreographed "action for actions sake".

scidata said...

Idiocracy may indeed explain the Fermi Paradox. A corollary is that‪ devastating 'enslopification' resulting from the invention of AI may be the brick wall that all civilizations eventually hit.

matthew said...

My money would be on late Joe Montana and the 49ers. West Coast offense, ya'll, plus no one was as cool in the pocket as Joe.

Celt said...

Women, Hispanics, LGBTQ, etc.

Alfred Differ said...

I like the term 'enslopification', but I don't see much chance of that happening. Look at how AI's are actually put to work and you'll find variations on centaurs. There isn't a lot of variation in the AI portions yet, but he human sides of these beasties are as varied as we are with all the human inclinations for power, wealth, harems, and litters of babies. Humans who participate in the sloppy crap will wind up being like our ancestors who proved to be less than resistant to alcohol poisoning. They are their ideas for how to do things will fall along the side of the road into our future.

We've been here before. Alcohol became much more available with the domestication of grains... and is at least partially implicated in the Y-chromosome bottleneck. We survived that. Alcohol became dirt cheap with industrial processes and the invention of a theory for thermodynamics. Terrible consequences for our families ensued, but no where near the scale of the bottleneck.

Children don't just copy their parents. They imitate and innovate on ideas from the entire community. Those who avoid sloppy AI amalgamation will do better in the long run... and their children will have them as sources for ideas in the next generation.

I'm optimistic, but I do expect there will be trauma. We shall manage.

locumranch said...

And, speaking of "1/3rd Reich" diminutives, NPR broadcast numerous interviewees today who openly admitted that (1) their goal was to directly "interfere" with federal ICE agents in the performance of their duty, a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 111 with federally-mandated penalties ranging up from 1 year in prison up to 8 years for cases involving physical contact, and (2) they were members of "Antifa", a federally-designated & NATO-recognized international terrorist organization.

Add this to Celt's assertion that those interested in posterity & child-rearing are intrinsically RACIST, I hope he goes easy on his own parents for the rather racist crime of birthing & raising him.

These people are just not very bright, proof-positive that specific groups of human beings are getting progressively stupider.


Best

matthew said...

AI results in my area of specialty are above 60% incorrect in my experience.

Any engineering "centaur" that relies on them will soon be sued by angry customers and pulled into court to explain their malfeasance. Criminal charges will not be out of the question.

What our techbois pass off for "AI" is utter garbage. It is designed to boost their own stock portfolios, not render anything near expert advice.

scidata said...

I broke my own rule against conflating LLMs and true AI. I must keep repeating, "not to walk on all fours".

Alfred Differ said...

Meh.

There is nothing illegal about interfering in illegal activities. Juries will sort this out soon enough and then the Appellate courts will deal with contested judgements.

Alfred Differ said...

I see some of the same trash Matthew is mentioning. That's why centaurs are a must. The decision right now is whether filtering the trash costs more than the money saved in time from the non-trash outputs. If the LLM service providers pay attention to revenues (they aren't there yet) they'll see us making those ROI decisions.

(I'm not paying for LLM access yet. Not to anyone. It's still borderline not-quite-worth-it, but it is getting close. My employer IS paying.)

Larry Hart said...

Google's AI function failed me twice.

I've been reading a lot of "Alex Delaware" mystery books, and some of them mention a time in which detective Milo Sturgis punched a police chief, so I've wondered if that's just part of the backstory or if it happened in an actual book. Google AI assured me that it never happened in any of the books, but I just now read the one in which it did ("The Murder Book", as if anyone cares).

Also, the Netflix promo for "A Man on the Inside" clearly shows Ted Danson's character on the quad of my alma mater, the University of Illinois in Champaign-Urbana. But when I ask Google AI if that is where the promo was shot, it assures me that the story takes place in a mythical college.

Both times, it got huffy, as if I was an idiot for asking the question. I'm not impressed.

Der Oger said...

I always laugh when someone relates to Antifa as an organization, lest an international one."The Antifa" does not exist, only individual groups with differing tactics and degrees of violence.
Those groups usually split up after a few months and years. For reasons.

The group our wannabe Mengele refers to was known as the "Hammer Gang", who, prior to their arrest, treated certain parts of Nazi anatomies in the fair state of Saxony with said tool. And maybe some in Budapest in a vacation when Orban held a Nazi rally.

"Vigilantism is unacceptable" said the police, which is chronically incapable of fighting said vigilantism when it comes from the other side.

Wonder how many Minnesotans would like to Hammer ICE Agents, and guys like our resident death camp doctor?

David Brin said...

Exactly Alfred. Bring it to juries, locum! No? Because EIGHTY TIMES as many high repubs have been indicted by Grand juries of mostly white retirees, mostly in red states? And similar convictions by trial juries? You can only scream "I'm the victim!" because otherwise you'd realize, 99% of your cult is victimizers. And we are standing up. And it terrifies you.

Larry Hart said...

From a Paul Krugman newsletter:

It’s important to understand that there is still much more work to be done and pain to endure. Running the loathsome Gregory Bovino out of town won’t end the siege of Minneapolis, let alone the ongoing attack on American democracy. Tom Homan, the “border czar” replacing Bovino, brings menace rather than conciliation. Earlier this month he told Fox News that he was pushing to create a database of protestors, which would be used for retribution:

We’re going to make them famous. We’re going to put their face on TV. We’re going to let their employers, in their neighborhoods, in their schools, know who these people are.

But given what has been happening in Minnesota, such intimidation would surely backfire. Imagine being a Minneapolis business owner who fired employees for joining peaceful protests. How well do you think that would sit with your customers?
...


That's what I thought when I first heard that threat a week or so back. Maybe they could shame some employers into firing people who were disrespectful to Charlie Kirk on line, but do they really think that "stood up to ICE thugs" is a black mark? My place of employment would probably give me some civic honor (not the kind that has money attached) . And if they fired me instead, well, as Cat Stevens said, "I won't have to work no more." A win-win.

c plus said...

I've always loved that America's national anthem is an interrogative, yet I despaired earlier this year, as institution after institution, firm after firm surrendered without a fight, that the answer to Mr Key's critical question was "No ... not anymore. The banner still waves, but the epithet is an epitaph".

But by God, Minnesota has earned the title.

David Brin said...

Please tell me this is real...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKSoxG1K7w

This fight is for humans -- best vs worst...
Though I won't refuse help from Mike of THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS.

c plus said...

The Guardian claims it is, and doubt there are a large number of youtube channels with that name and over 2 million followers.

David Brin said...

onward

onward

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