Sunday, November 23, 2008

Soros Examines the Causes.

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In the latest issue of the New York Review of Books, philanthropist, currency trader and international financial expert George Soros offers his own view of the world financial meltdown.

The salient feature of the current financial crisis is that it was not caused by some external shock like OPEC raising the price of oil or a particular country or financial institution defaulting. The crisis was generated by the financial system itself. This fact—that the defect was inherent in the system —contradicts the prevailing theory, which holds that financial markets tend toward equilibrium and that deviations from the equilibrium either occur in a random manner or are caused by some sudden external event to which markets have difficulty adjusting. The severity and amplitude of the crisis provides convincing evidence that there is something fundamentally wrong with this prevailing theory and with the approach to market regulation that has gone with it.

Later in his rumination, Mr. Soros gets to an important point that is routinely, even fetishistically, ignored by those who recite incantations of Faith In Blind Markets.

This remarkable sequence of events can be understood only if we abandon the prevailing theory of market behavior. As a way of explaining financial markets, I propose an alternative paradigm that differs from the current one in two respects. First, financial markets do not reflect prevailing conditions accurately; they provide a picture that is always biased or distorted in one way or another. Second, the distorted views held by market participants and expressed in market prices can, under certain circumstances, affect the so-called fundamentals that market prices are supposed to reflect. This two-way circular connection between market prices and the underlying reality I call reflexivity.

Soros is quite right to focus on human nature -- and our propensity for delusion, in particular -- as a root of the problem. In fact, while markets are wonderful wealth generating machines, that harness competition between individuals and groups in positive-sum ways that benefit us all, they are not mystically simple or perfect. Nor do they arise (as the sun does) out of immutable physical law.

Indeed, if you scan human history, you will find very few examples of market-based systems that escaped meddling and ruination at the hands of the very same elites who stood at the top of the social order -- the owners of nearly all capital, who insisted that they knew what's best, and nearly always squelched competition, rather than let it flow and thrive. In the vast majority of cultures, it was top owners who shut down what we would call open market behavior. A threat far more prevalent than peasant revolts or socialism.

Market Fundamentalists tell themselves a dogma that Adam Smith himself never believed, that markets are rooted in - and organically emerge from - human nature. This is fundamentally wrong. Our natures developed in a Darwinian-tribal context that predated civilization and markets. In order to understand this, simply study the power and economic arrangements in most tribal or pastoral societies. And even later. Try calculating what fraction of the population in most ancient nations must have been descended from the harems of kings. (Recent data show that 8% of the Chinese population, today, is directly descended from Ghengiz Khan.)

While it is true that some deeply human imperatives do work well with markets - e.g. our ability to both cooperate and compete, our embedded notion of fairness and quid-pro-quo. other human drives do not. For example, the propensity to cheat and deceive. And our remarkable tendency to tell ourselves satisfyingly delusional stories that aren't well-based in fact. This latter trait makes us wonderful artists, but also great believers in simplistic dogmas.

Like the simplistic dogma of perfect, equilibrium-seeking markets.

What Mr. Soros appears to see clearly, and describes well, is the role of delusion in our both our recent "credit bubble" and a much longer, post-Reagan "super-bubble" that was based upon the assumption that markets automatically correct for all distortions, even though traders can be like any other tribe, influenced by group-think, by shared myths and by zealous optimism. Even by their own standards. hedge-betters did not include enough wagers that pondered the possibility of a serious downturn to what was obviously a bubble,

What Mr. Soros appears to leave out is another aspect of the present crisis, how it was driven not only be delusion, but also by cheating, predation and parasitism. These are three different - if related - things. Cheating is where players seek to limit Hayekian knowledge flows by limiting the transparency that markets require to function.

Predation is outright lawbreaking -- or else stealing by using some loophole, the way that a crony network of golf buddies took over the boards of scores of US corporations, appointing each other to CEO slots and voting each other huge bonuses -- in effect creating a cartel of top managers -- all somehow without triggering the rules against interlocking directorates and restraint of trade. Above all, their belief in market forces was proved hypocritical, since such pay raises for CEOs should (under capitalism) draw in talent from other fields until managerial talent supply pushed prices down again.

Parasitism is the least examined of these forces, in part because it is almost perfectly legal. It happens when an entire species of creature arrives on the scene, that contributes little to economic activity, but draws sustenance from healthy companies, just like a vampire bat siphoning blood from cattle. In my last economics related posting, I suggested that this has happened to our civilization with the arrival, in layer after layer of management, of swarms of "business school graduates."

For all his faults, when Walter Wriston ran Citi Bank, the institution was all about... banking. Because Wriston and his colleagues were, above all, bankers. Likewise, companies led by widget-makers tended to remember that their core business is widget-making. Even if some of the engineers went on to get MBAs and law degrees, at least they would remember the product. The service that customers paid for.

But as corporations were taken over by a caste who never made a product or provided a service, it is only natural that goods and services dropped in priority, while parasitical aspects of business gained importance, like developing innovative ways to hedge and leverage instruments to squeeze a little more profit out of transactions in commoditized debt.

Think of it this way. When vampires are in charge, they will emphasize blood. Even if they are smart vampires who claim to have the health of the cows at heart (so to speak), their goal will be to maximize the flow of blood. Now, blood is important. Like money, it enables the body to live and take nourishment to all its cells. Money and blood matter... but their purpose, in the long run, is to help the body stay alive -- or to help the company to make competitive goods and services. When the vampire tunes the cow's body to deliver JUST the right amount of blood to keep it alive, under ideal circumstance, and no more, guess what happens when the slightest thing goes wrong?

Above all, both vampires and business majors like to live on the edge. They assume the body that they are tapping will remain in equilibrium forever. Reserves? Those are for wusses. Hence, another "management" psychosis that will hit us hard, very soon... our industrial over-reliance on just-in-time production practices -- abetted by tax laws that punish warehousing and robust practices -- will surely be the second shoe to drop.

The drastic step of closing undergraduate business schools and only allowing MBA candidates who heve spent some time in goods and services, may be drastic. But it could be effective.

These warnings are not new. Last time, I urged that folks try watching “Executive Suite,” a 1954 Robert Wise film starring William Holden and Barbara Stanwyck. Though a bit silly, it really does address some of these issues, at a level that movies seldom aspire-to.

The essay by Mr. Soros should be read. We all need to ponder new ways of looking at old problems.

124 comments:

Dave Rickey said...

Fundamental irrationality, and the "Heinlein Mind" (Man is not a rational creature, but a rationalizing one), is something I've been wrestling with lately as well. Neuropsych is turning up a lot of hard evidence to the effect that none of us is as rational as we think we are, and most of us don't even do a very good job of pretending.

Which means that my own efforts to plumb irrationality are probably just creating a more complex system of rationalization for my own predispositions.

Geoffrey Allan Plauche said...

This analysis ignores the fundamental cause of the financial crisis: the easy credit policy of the federal government. This is ultimately what led to the bubble that inevitably had to burst. A fractional reserve central-banking system with fiat money is at the root of the artificial, systemic boom-bust cycle. Government-induced easy credit leads to greater risk-taking and to malinvestments during the artificial boom.

"Indeed, if you scan human history, you will find very few examples of market-based systems that escaped meddling and ruination at the hands of the very same elites who stood at the top of the social order -- the owners of nearly all capital, who insisted that they knew what's best, and nearly always squelched competition, rather than let it flow and thrive. In the vast majority of cultures, it was top owners who shut down what we would call open market behavior."

Yes, and how do they generally accomplish this? Through government intervention, through a government-business partnership.

Robert said...

An interesting thing about taxation shows that the higher corporate taxes are, the better off corporations are. Part of this is a result of greed. In order to minimize the amount of money that the corporation is taxed for, corporations reduce the amount of profit that goes back to shareholders and top management and instead reinvests profits into the company itself.

A side effect of this is a healthier company that is constantly evolving and growing, rather than pumping out maximum profits for the shareholders.

An example of this can be found with the private company EBSCO Publishing. The ownership of EBSCO reinvests the profits of the company back into its infrastructure, allowing new technologies and expanding upon services. As a result, EBSCO has grown as a leader in the Information Technology firm, outperforming publicly-owned companies in the same industry.

The publicly-owned company suffers from the inherent flaw that it exists currently to maximize profits for shareholders. This is done by cutting expenses. One expense? Infrastructure improvements.

But if an owner of an automobile doesn't change his or her oil in order to help improve his or her finances over the short run, over the long run the car will suffer greater mechanical problems that would cost far more than the cost of changing the oil. Likewise, a company that skimps on infrastructure improvements ends up falling behind those companies that improved on infrastructure, despite the short term "gains."

Ironically enough, higher corporate taxes may very well be the medicine to help fix our economy by encouraging industries to focus on infrastructure over profits and thus increase its own survivability.

Robert A. Howard, Tangents Reviews

Stefan Jones said...

DB:

Another post that could be a Salon article. Or at least put on your Salon blog.

Today's validation word: "Ahonnins." My guess: A priestly caste in charge of dividing up the unburnt parts of sacrificial animals and delivering them to the needy.

Ah, that one timed out. Now I am presented wiht "Blicare." Which sounds like a generic version of a prescription pharmaceutical.

rewinn said...

Robert's point is good; for a fuller explanation, see Larry Beinhart's "Why the Economy Grows Like Crazy Amid High Taxes"

Of course, such ideas are contrary to contemporary dogma taught in econ 101, Business programs and the Nightly News. It may be that MBAs, Econ degrees and the like produce not a corp of managers but a coterie of priests.

After all, Faith in Freidmanomics depends on an esoteric knowledge, known in full to but a few, brought to the masses by fables, evoking powers beyond those of any individual, defining correct behavior, promising reward for the virtuous and punishment for the lazy or otherwise wrongdoers, and above all not subject to proof: for any real-world example tending to disprove the belief is poo-pooh'd as being an exception.

(The same may be said of Marxism of course; like Friedmanism, it can't be disproven as a theory of human behavior because "it's never really been tried anywhere").

I cannot say that I can agree with Geoffrey's blaming government for market distortions. If you want a good example of market distortions imposed by non-governmental forces, you might consult your local Mafia shakedown artist. Or you might look at the outright fakery of Triple-A bond ratings issued by non-governmental rating agencies; it was a lack of government oversight, not an excess thereof, that caused that problem. Tranching mortgaged securities likewise went bad due to lack of regulation, not its excess ... as even Alan Greenspan recently confessed. Fiat money has nothing to do with that.

More fundamentally, without government to enforce property rights and contracts, you have no market; the very existence of markets reflect distortion by government in the natural state of anarchy or tribalism (take your pick).

Duncan Cairncross said...

David I agree about the the layer of parasites but I disagree about where they are in the companies
- admission I have a DMS (1/2 an MBA) that I studied for after 15 years in industry -
The parasites are much higher up the ladder, In the UK senior managers would just appear - there is a complete strata of rich people that rarely interfaces with the rest of us -
When a senior position is vacant it is filled from that strata, There is no conspiracy involved these people associate totally with each other - so there do not even think of anybody else for the important positions.
In the US something similar happens, the right school/college

This layer treats the companies as their own to be milked

Reserves and inventory are different, if you have inventory you will end up scrapping some of it as designs change and "things happen", the faster the changes the less inventory is appropriate.

Reserves are available to be converted.

A lot of the inventory reduction in bad JIT consists of hiding the inventory, if the materials still exist but are owned by the supplier you have not reduced inventory and you will have to pay for it (as part of your suppliers costs)
Good JIT removes the excess inventory completely and requires you to make your system robust - Quality must be -Assured- by capable robust processes.

I think part of what George Soros is suggesting is your concept of Criticism - the government (better the citizens) should monitor the financial market ready to shout -He's NAKED!!-
This would require much more openness but if we the taxpayer have bought into the market we should be able to see inside

SteveO said...

OK just for fun...

One of my "ostriches" sent an e-mail with a scenario that readers of this blog will recognize, though phrased positively (sending up e-mail trial balloons?). Perhaps you will find my enhancements amusing. His e-mail is offset with >, my responses are not and have a line of tildes outlining them.
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Hi Uncle XXXXXXX!

You missed some things. Note corrections below :-)
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XXXXXXX XXXXXXX wrote:
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> Thought you might get a laugh out of this...
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> Democracy in Action
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> You know what would really P**S OFF the Democrats...
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> Bush should resign now.
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> Then Dick Cheney becomes President (that would really P**S OFF the libs)!!!
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Bush no longer known as "Worst President Ever," Cheney now holds the title. Dick Cheney pardons Bush for all illegal actions taken 2001-2008. Bush moves to Saudi Arabia to be with the only people who made money during his presidency. Bush crowned Prince Dubya and is given a real-life castle to play with.
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> Then he appoints Condoleeza Rice as VP.
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> Then Cheney resigns two weeks later and Condoleeza Rice, A Republican,
> becomes the first BLACK - WOMAN President!!!
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Condi then pardons Dick Cheney for all illegal actions taken 2001-2008. Cheney now moves to Prince Bush's castle in order to continue telling Prince Bush what to say and, occasionally, reminding him to breathe. Since "first black woman" to become President was not elected, but was given it in a cynical gesture by a corrupt administration, Republicans continue to lose power across the US as they have just demonstrated that they are the worst of Affirmative Action proponents - giving someone unqualified a job just because of her gender and color - so now nobody votes for them. Republicans join the Whigs in the dustbin of history. Rational conservatives create the new Conservative Party, repudiate the corruption of their former Republican leaders, and become useful members of society again. The US regains power and stature in the world squandered by Bush -Cheney.

And they all live happily ever after. Even Dubya.
:-) 8-) :-D ;-) :-P

Tony Fisk said...

Duncan's definition of inventory varies a bit from the way I was using it.

Goldratt's Theory of Constraints breaks a process into three things:
- throughput (money from sold items)
- inventory (money invested in items currently in production. I'm sure it and the others can be broken down further, but this is how Goldratt defines it)
- overhead (money spent on producing items)

Goldratt argues that, as a part of identifying and managing processing constraints or bottlenecks, the QA effort will naturally be concentrated just upstream of the bottleneck.

(The Goal was written as an illustrative novel, with characters having to deal with the fallout of their decisions. I can quite easily see how a clade of bright young* MBA theorists would handle things if it had been presented as just a clinically detached paper: the perfect process is all throughput and no inventory or overhead. The three factors are, of course, very tightly interconnected)

'bulabbat': honorific given to a Jophur professor of economics.
* maybe not 'gen We' young!?

Anonymous said...

brin here in the road as anonymous:

I do not accept blaming all this on "easy credit." That's like saying free education produces too many neocon & lefty assholes. Yes... but that's not the point. The derivatives were LIES

SteveO - Har!

Except you cannot appoint a new VP without approval of Congress, and Pelosi is next in line. So this scam only works up to a point.

The GOP would NEVER recover

Stefan cool stuff I just submitted a VERY well written piece about "1947" to salon. But they've never printed any of my political stuff.

have fun guys...

Duncan Cairncross said...

Tony,
I agree with that definition, inventory is all of the Work In Progress (WIP) in the system,
However all inventory is not equal
The further upstream you go the less specialized the parts are and the more different things they can be used for.

I liked "The Goal" but it concentrated on throughput.
I have always found it difficult to get equal concentration on Quality,
Make Scrap Faster seems to be embedded in the operations mindset.

rewinn said...

While the Senate would never approve Rice's appointment as VP (...she simply lacks the credentials...) SteveO's delightful ostrich post introduces a more plausible scenario:

* January 19, 2009: Bush pardons Cheney and everyone else in his Rolodex, then resigns.

* Cheney is then sworn in, and pardons Bush.

* Now each have pardons, as do nearly everyone who might testify against them.

*They flick their fingers at justice!

Not to get all "conspiracy theory", but ... can you think of any reason they would not?

Other than confidence that the new Administration will "look forward not backward" or some such?

Anonymous said...

yipes to get depressed see
http://daggatt.blogspot.com/2008/11/meltdown.html

What pisses me off is that when Bush resigns for cheney, no one but a few dozen of you will say "Brin said it first!"

BHO should have a small team game\ing possible strange scenarios like this

Anonymous said...

Seriously guys.

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Tony Fisk said...

All this talk of processes, increasing throughput, and making scrap faster reminds me of the recent New Scientist special asking why economic growth is needed?

It contained a wonderful/awful anecdote about a simple explanation of economic theory included in some World Bank report. There was this diagram of the economy, with raw material inputs going in, and outputs (product and waste) coming out.

When it was pointed out that those arrows came and went somewhere (the environment), the next draft showed the diagram in an unnamed box.
When it was pointed out that the box should be labelled 'the environment', the diagram ... was removed.

(One of the first things taught in my course was that nothing exists in a vacuum. It would seem that, at the World Bank, no-one can hear you scream!)

I lent the NS edition to someone who works at a bank for display purposes. I'm not sure they had the courage to do so.

(I am subscribing. One day, I might even get a chance to read!)

- nobodie!

David Smelser said...

rewinn asked: Not to get all "conspiracy theory", but ... can you think of any reason they would not?

David:
If they have pardons, they cannot take the 5th if they were ever called before congress to testify. So either they testify or they get locked up on contempt charges.

Also, I don't think presidential pardons would protect them from civil prosecution.

rewinn said...

David Smelser commented...

"If they have pardons, they cannot take the 5th... Also, I don't think presidential pardons would protect them from civil prosecution"

Tru, but the choice between (A) 4200+ cases of felony-murder and (B) testifying before Congress ... is no choice. And, sadly, pardons make civil prosecution harder since criminal convictions are exceedingly useful in proving facts helpful in a civil case.

Let us hope they are arrogant enough not to fear justice. After all, they have gotten away with everything so far.

CSM said...

Ummmmm, the people with the most fanatical belief in markets also attack fractional reserve banking and fiat money. The free market gold bugs have been predicting a crash for a rather long time -- too long to be useful.

Don't conflate a pure free market economy with the mixed economy we have now. Yes, a more pure market economy also has problems, but they are different problems.

And don't whine about deregulation per se when in recent years we got Sarbanes-Oxley and the mark to market rule, not to mention Jesse Jackson and company extorting banks who didn't give loans to the uncreditworthy.

The irrational propensities you describe exist, but they also exist in government! The beauty of markets is that they provide a better check on such propensities than the political process.

That said, when wealth gets concentrated into too few hands, you cease to have a market. That's why I keep coming back here. You are on the correct track regarding concentrations of wealth/power, but many of the big government prescriptions miss the mark.

What we desperately need is a lower barrier to entry for floating new stock. We need to replace investment banking with Dutch auctions or the like.

Despite the existence of anti trust law, our government intentially increases concentrations of corporate power. When a bank fails, the government seeks out a buyer. Instead, it should be converting some of its debt into equity and be floating new shares to shore things up further.

Our financial instability comes from large institutions playing an ongoing game of Chicken. They borrow short and lend long and then whine to the government when they get squeezed.

Sociotard said...

I do love McSweeny's.

Read Atlas Shrugged Updated for the Current Financial Crisis.

Alex Tolley said...

The fundamentalist religion of "markets" is definitely worrying.

However, I suspect that it is like any organized religion - it is used to control the masses, while the elite ignore it. How else to understand the logic of bailouts, unless the players are really self-delusional.

Also, Br. Brin, please do not equate the financial market behavior of prices that Soros is referring to with the markets for goods and services. They have many similarities, but they are not the same. Soros's thoughts on financial markets should not be generalized to the working of all markets.

Matt DeBlass said...

It seems the pardon tsunami is still just a ripple along the shoreline, Bush just issued 14.

"Powne," I suppose that's what video gamers used to do to each other back in Ye Olde Days.

daveawayfromhome said...

"not to mention Jesse Jackson and company extorting banks who didn't give loans to the uncreditworthy"

Deeply tired of this conservative meme. Democrats, or whoever you blame, did not force anyone to give bad loans, they forced an "end" to Red-lining, which was the denial of loans to certain segments of the population based on race and regardless of their creditworthiness. Any bad loans given were the choice of a bank loan exec who knew they could collect a fee and bundle the risk along to someone else.

If you're going to give a simplistic single-cause for the current crisis, low interest rates are a much better one than "easy credit", since low interest rates led to the inflated housing prices.

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For another good example of market distortions imposed by non-governmental forces, you might look at the Women's Clothing industry. Even though American women average dress-size 12 (Marilyn Monroe's size, I believe) the industry treats the standard to be more like size 3 or 4 (or, ideally, less). Half the women in the country are forced to shop for "plus" sized clothing. One might think that these women would be a major market force, but it doesnt seem to be the case - the mainstream clothing industry ignores them completely.

David Smelser said...

Brin wrote: If you're going to give a simplistic single-cause for the current crisis, low interest rates are a much better one than "easy credit", since low interest rates led to the inflated housing prices.

David:
Pointing to a cause suggests that the the solution to the problem (or at least a way to prevent it from occurring again) is to reverse or undo that cause.

If that premise is correct, then I don't think "low interest rates" is a good candidate for cause since I've not seen anyone suggest that we need to raise rates.

On the other hand, Karl Denniger (http://www.denninger.net), suggests these three root causes:

1. Nobody can trust a balance sheet. This is due to off-balance-sheet vehicles (which were supposed to be banned after ENRON) and “Level 3” assets, which nobody can analyze the true valuation of, as identification of the claimed assets and their valuation models are undisclosed.

2. Credit Default Swaps (CDS) are “over the counter” (OTC) transactions with no margin or capital supervision. As a consequence nobody knows if their “counterparty” can pay. In fact huge percentages of these people can’t pay – but nobody knows who they are.

3. Leverage. The SEC removed broker/dealer 12:1 leverage limits in 2004. Every firm that has failed – all
five (Fannie, Freddie, Bear Stearns, Lehman and AIG) had leverage far in excess of 12:1.

See: http://www.denninger.net/letters/genesis.pdf

Cliff said...

Neuropsych is turning up a lot of hard evidence to the effect that none of us is as rational as we think we are, and most of us don't even do a very good job of pretending.

Hmmm...I hope Zorgon is reading this.

On Universe - how does it compare to Asimov's? I'm trying to do my part for print SF, but the stories in Asimov's...
For example, the latest issue has a story where two old men take an alien out on a lobster boat so it can see the view. Then the alien dies. The end.

They're not all like this, but enough that reading it feels like a chore sometimes. And I would really prefer that my SF not feel like a chore.

unsit: Newspeak word for having a Thought Police kick the chair out from under you.

Cliff said...

RE: The Russ Daggatt blog link:

OH SHIT

(blogger password: drums
Now it's not even trying anymore)

daveawayfromhome said...

@ David Smelser: I'm flattered that you might confuse me with the good doctor, but I should point out that I aint him, even though he was not at home.

daveawayfromhome said...

Also, I dont think that it's a good answer to the cause of the crisis, but it's better than "easy credit", which generally is code for "blame the poor people for defaulting on loans forced on the banks by the Clinton Administration".
Without the low interest rates on home mortgages, prices would not have ballooned the way they did.

Though I suppose that then some other credit crisis would have brought on the collapse.

Sociotard said...

Matt DeBlass said...
It seems the pardon tsunami is still just a ripple along the shoreline, Bush just issued 14.


Meh. In November of 2000 Clinton pardoned 11 and gave clemency to one. That's less than Bush has just done, but by that point in his final year Clinton had already given many many more pardons than Bush has.

Capers said...

While I do agree about the parasitic upper managerial class (especially the UK poster's point about their callousness stemming from social cocooning rather than outright malice), the real reason I'm writing this comment is simply this:

"gadfack"


I'm thinking it's just a really polite swear word.

David Brin said...

Back from a trip showing our son Cal Poly, UCSB and my alma mater Caltech.

Earl Katz has pointed out:

Whenever I discussed the current bailout situation with people, I find they have a hard time comprehending the actual numbers involved. That became a problem while doing the research for the Bailout Nation book. I needed some way to put this into proper historical perspective.

If we add in the Citi bailout, the total cost now exceeds $4.6165 trillion dollars. People have a hard time conceptualizing very large numbers, so let’s give this some context. The current Credit Crisis bailout is now the largest outlay In American history.

Jim Bianco of Bianco Research crunched the inflation adjusted numbers. The bailout has cost more than all of these big budget government expenditures – combined:

• Marshall Plan: Cost: $12.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $115.3 billion

• Louisiana Purchase: Cost: $15 million, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $217 billion

• Race to the Moon: Cost: $36.4 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $237 billion

• S&L Crisis: Cost: $153 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $256 billion

• Korean War: Cost: $54 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $454 billion

• The New Deal: Cost: $32 billion (Est), Inflation Adjusted Cost: $500 billion (Est)

• Invasion of Iraq: Cost: $551b, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $597 billion

• Vietnam War: Cost: $111 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $698 billion

• NASA: Cost: $416.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $851.2 billion

TOTAL: $3.92 trillion


How on god's gree Earth can this NOT be the BIGGEST RAPE committed by the neocon-kleptos?

The Citi bailout is outrageous NOT because of the amount or the necessity of saving Citi, but because of the monstrous supposition that Citi management or stockholders deserve any of it. They chose their outrageous gambles and should live with the consequences.

The new taxpayer owned entity should stay in business, serving customers, and gradually be sold off as the economy improves.

Clinton SYSTEMATICALLY gave a lot of pardons, in the normal sense of allowing them to percolate upward to corrects excesses or miscarriages of justice. The Mark Rich thing was weird.

Cliff... ASIMOV's is hopeless. Judith Berman a decade ago studied it and found that it systematically despises the future. It is Isaac Asimov's Magazine of Nostaligia, Ennui and Despair.

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David Brin said...

Palin... the gift that keeps on giving...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kjM1asH-8

Pardoned one... grinned while the others were decapitated and drained...

David Brin said...

Fascinating hints that the Sun may seasonally affect rates of radioactive decay on Earth. (But wouldn't more flares have shown up by now?)

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/38341/title/Half-life_(more_or_less)

Sociotard said...

A fun video featuring Star Wars vs. Star Trek. Dr. Brin will love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ijDlbvAxw

Anonymous said...

I have never commented before but it just occurred to me that this idea could easily be applied to the state of the publishing industry today.

How many articles have I read that indicate how much the marketing and promotion arms (MBA heavy, of course) of the super-consolidated modern publishing houses have nearly wiped out the editor/author relationship in order to maximize returns and please shareholders?

I'm sure my above is a little simplistic and generalized, but it does seem to be a larger, troubling trend over the past twenty years.

And, than you Dr Brin for having such an excellent and passionate blog. It was a great source sanity during the election process.

Darin

David Brin said...

To cheer your Thanksgiving (my favorite holiday by far):

Subject: Excellent bailout perspective

Check out the website for more.
Earl

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/11/big-bailouts-bigger-bucks/

Whenever I discussed the current bailout situation with people, I find they have a hard time comprehending the actual numbers involved. That became a problem while doing the research for the Bailout Nation book. I needed some way to put this into proper historical perspective.
If we add in the Citi bailout, the total cost now exceeds $4.6165 trillion dollars. People have a hard time conceptualizing very large numbers, so let’s give this some context. The current Credit Crisis bailout is now the largest outlay In American history.

Jim Bianco of Bianco Research crunched the inflation adjusted numbers. The bailout has cost more than all of these big budget government expenditures – combined:

• Marshall Plan: Cost: $12.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $115.3 billion

• Louisiana Purchase : Cost: $15 million, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $217 billion

• Race to the Moon: Cost: $36.4 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $237 billion

• S&L Crisis: Cost: $153 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $256 billion

• Korean War: Cost: $54 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $454 billion

• The New Deal: Cost: $32 billion (Est), Inflation Adjusted Cost: $500 billion (Est)

• Invasion of Iraq : Cost: $551b, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $597 billion

• Vietnam War: Cost: $111 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $698 billion

• NASA: Cost: $416.7 billion, Inflation Adjusted Cost: $851.2 billion

TOTAL: $3.92 trillion


Alas, it gets worse.
Bloomberg puts the commitments at $7.7 trillion. And that is a few days old – I’m not sure it captures everything to date. Hard to keep count:

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=arEE1iClqDrk&refer=home

Bloomberg is suing the Fed under the Freedom of Information Act to get more info on which banks it has lent to, how much, and what the collateral is.

TechNald said...

i agree with you too.

Brother Doug said...

What really makes me mad about the Citygroup bailout is that my widowed mother receives a pension and health care from Citygroup because my late father worked for an insurance company that got bought out by Citygroup.

They treated their employees like s%&t, forced into early retirement the experienced honest workers like my father, then looted the company and stuck my family with their reduced pensions and bargain basement health care. A big shift of liability to the workers and there was nothing my dad could do to stop it because they had no union and no power.

So if Citygroup fails my mom loses her pension and the stock they gave for 401k matching. All that work my father did was stolen and the CEO's got away with the cash.

I hate to say it but at this point I think the only option is to follow the Japanese government model and buy up controlling shares in companies and use it to guide the economy and pay for government worker pensions.

Brother Doug

Nicholas MacDonald said...

B Doug:

Near the end of his life, Peter Drucker saw the emergence of what he called "Pension Fund Socialism" (which I don't think he saw as a bad thing). He noticed that, through the vast 401(k) and pension schemes, America's workers had actually come to have a collective ownership stake in a vast segment of the economy- easily as much as 40% of the entire capitalization of the NYSE. This seems to echo John Stuart Mill's own predictions that a socialist system would eventually emerge, not through government nationalizations, but through the workers gradually buying ownership shares in the means of production.

The question I'm asking is this- how do we translate this vast "fund ownership" into some sort of control or stewardship? How do we turn powerless owners into actual stakeholders? Is there any way to do this short of nationalizing segments of the economy or government buy-ins?

Brother Doug said...

Well Nicholas MacDonald:
I was thinking about the same thing but every scenario that is politically feasible ends up being manipulated by the CEO's for there own benefit. It’s a mess. I conserder myself smart and more knowable about markets than 95% of Americans but I don’t see a good solution.

From what I observe only the Japanese have done it successfully. The California state employee pension fund (CALPERS) was a good model how we might copy them until this meltdown exposed that the feds are the only ones with the power to make it work.

David Brin said...

It seems that nobody is interested in subscribing to Baen's Universe Magazine or reading my latest novella.

The coupon code EE329517B2 that I've offered seems to have gone unused, even once.

Aw c'mon. Is the economy that bad? Or my reputation as a storyteller?

Jon said...

In my case it's because I am completely broke; the only David Brin stories I can afford to read are through the library. (and even there, I have to read them there, or your free ones online, my fees are too big.)

I still haven't gotten a chance to read Sky Horizon yet.

Tom Craver said...

I'm starting to see a few pundits discussing something I've been thinking about since late last year - what happens when the 2008 market collapse hits taxes? It's already starting to hit in the more exposed states

The flip side of "tax the rich" is what we'll see in 2009, as the investing class now have losses large enough to wipe out pretty much any 2008 gains that they've already paid estimated taxes upon, and for which they will be owed refunds! (Too bad we've already spent it all.) AND they'll be able to pay much lower estimated taxes over the course of 2009, based on lower income in 2008.

So 2009 - a lot less tax revenue coming in, a fair chunk going back out as refunds early in the year - just as the bailout funding hits its stride.

My guess - stagflation as the feds desperately try to chart a course between totally shutting down the economy with high interest rate borrowing, and triggering massive inflation by "printing" money.
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"whies" - laments of those who don't understand why the good times must end.

David Brin said...

Ack! Well THAT was a pretty awful show.

Dang, why is that freaking French quack-poet such a fixation with the History Channel?

I gotta pick these things more carefully.

Rob said...

The coupon code EE329517B2 that I've offered seems to have gone unused, even once.

In my case, I simply looked at the price and then forgot to do it.

A comparable web publication, Card's IGMS, offers about 12 stories per quarterly issue, for $2/issue. Once a mainliner offers a story there, I buy the issue. Maybe that's a pricing model Baen could adopt? Or is there much much more there than 50 stories a year?

Perhaps it's a price thing? Or as you say, an economy thing? I dunno. I'm kind of saving up for an Apple TV or something like it...

William_Shatner said...

Didn't Eisenhower have a 91% tax rate on the wealthy?

The PROBLEM, and I will argue with Denninger about this as well, is that we don't have a trade policy that protects wages -- we have a trade policy that protects profits, as if Multinational corporations are going to shower us with love after they use our CIA and Military to preserve even more profits and cheap resources. The PROBLEM is that we keep putting people from the financial industry in charge of riding heard on financial policy -- rather than someone who cares about the working person in America.

20-25% of GDP since 2003 has been on Credit alone. We have "experts" who want no pain for the wealthy, and keep manipulating credit and other instruments so that nobody in the country club has to chip a nail.

You cannot correct an economy by financial trickery. If the US produces nothing of value, then eventually, something is going to get devalued. The crisis is; that all the crooks who have been running this scam, know that they can't get that 10-15% YOY growth out of the buying public. It's the "Bill Gates walks into a Bar" joke -- the average person in that bar is a Millionaire, but there is no sense in catering to anyone else in the bar. The war on the working middle class, and on Unions, started with Reagan. But the SUCCESS of the wealthy, is ultimately their failure. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet cannot create a market. The Derivatives and other "fantasy money" markets, could blithely create schemes to trade on Sub-Prime loans and other nonsense -- such that there was more to be made on trading fantasy paper, than in selling tickets to Disney World, manufacturing cars, producing bio-tech.

Nope, the wealthy of the world got suckered into a giant Ponzi scheme, because they already suckered the middle class into debt. But where do they go from here?

Either the Super Rich, become merely Rich, or their buddies like BushCo, Bernanke, and Paulson, make sure they never get a boo boo, OR, you and I get the check for their party, and we continue to contract the economy. It is possible that this will mean a run from the dollar, and a total loss in confidence in the financial systems. Yes, fundamentally, I don't see how our banking system can actually work over the long-term. I'd be open to someone explaining how we can have factoring, that allows Banks to leverage a deposit into 10 or more loans. Then charge interest,... which results in a built-in inflation rate. Only new debts can create new loans, but eventually you have more and more debt -- which can only be offset by more and more velocity in money. This makes it appear that there is lots of growth -- but you've done nothing but trade paper. Have we had a greater than 10 year period where we haven't had "surprise" bank bailouts?

The economy is going to be shrinking fast. The ONLY remedy I see, is to force an increase in wages. This would allow workers to buy more and take out loans. This would then be coupled with a trade policy that charged for differences in wages on imported goods, and for pollution as well. Oh, and go back to taxing more on those who get more from the economy

The Auto Union workers make about $28 an hour, not $75. That bigger figure is based upon workers divided by costs -- which adds the pensions of current retired workers. Well, those people paid into those accounts, GM and Ford owes them to workers like a bank owes you back your deposit. Calling this an employment cost is a flat out lie, and the media is in on it, because it works for Rich owners -- not Unions. If Ford and GM can lowball these workers, then it will mean other workers will get paid less very shortly.

Money is relative. The people who have been weened on this bogus notion of a "free market" or "free trade" don't understand anything important. It doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, if we spend more on products or labor, if there is no other choice. It just shifts where the money is made in the economy. If you keep making goods that employ labor cheaper, you won't be able to buy the goods -- because your LABOR won't pay enough. If you CANNOT hire a worker for less than $10, your burger will not go up in price at McDonalds -- because the MARKET sets that price. However, if more people can afford more, and are willing to pay that, the price of the burger will inflate. But this time it is because of wages -- and not because someone got a second mortgage on the home. If Burger Meister can pay an undocumented worker $2 an hour, and McDonalds has to pay $5.75, then Burger Meister can afford to undercut McDonalds for a short time. By allowing one company to cheat -- this distorts the market, and leads to consolidation and unemployment. You know what we haven't had in the financial markets? Anyone making sure there wasn't cheating going on.

But with the extra money that Burger Meister makes by shafting employees (reminds a person of Wal-Mart), they can bribe politicians and buy into the media, and Henry Paulson can just add a provision that gives them a tax break when they buy out McDonalds. In fact, he might buy shares that don't vote of McDonalds and some fantasy price they ask, and then let Burger Meister buy the voting shares for a very cheap bargain price. Effectively having taxpayers pay for the buy-out of a fast food giant. After that, Burger Meister will be too big to fail -- but the press won't be hammering them for any future bail outs, because of course, they won't be wasting money on Union workers.

If there is no demand, there is no market. You can give as much as you'd like in tax breaks for the wealthy and they won't hire more workers, or give us enough charity to make a real difference. This is a fundamental and unavoidable problem and until our consciousness changes to re-learn the mistakes of the great depression.

William_Shatner said...

Dave Rickey said...
Fundamental irrationality, and the "Heinlein Mind" (Man is not a rational creature, but a rationalizing one), is something I've been wrestling with lately as well. Neuropsych is turning up a lot of hard evidence to the effect that none of us is as rational as we think we are, and most of us don't even do a very good job of pretending.


I think we are both irrational and rational. It's recognizing your motivations that really counts. This is why Libertarianism is doomed to failure; it depends upon a total rational and independent person. This is a very important concept that is fundamental to society and must be answered.

Here is what I see as the problem with Human Kind actually living in a "meritocracy;"

While I might be rational about the food I eat -- I might have a gambling problem. You on the other hand, may have a food problem, and not a gambling problem.

We can have a mommy state, that tries to "protect us." And too much of that will fail. However, I do not believe that you "de-incentivize work" as much as the Free Market folks claim. The most basic desire of any kid, is to make people proud and to do something cool, only heavy marketing turns this into a desire for material gain. You also cannot incentivize well fed people under this theory -- yet we have a country full of plump, overworked and under rested people who have to pay outrageous fees for someone else to watch their kids.

However, I'd say, that If I made my list longer than Food, or Gambling, I would eventually come up with a weakness for everyone on this blog. Either we protect each other a little bit from our weakness -- our irrationality pretending to be sane, or we leave some of us open to predators --- who will eventually corrupt our system. Even if I have a gambling problem, I have to contend with the people who can't avoid McDonalds to save their lives. And from every study I've seen, eating this crap will rot your brain, diminish your sex life, and turn you cranky. I'm going to have to pay some more taxes to deal with the health problems or I'm going to deal with a large population of dim-witted people voting the wrong way.

That's what happened to America. We made education and good citizenship an "al a Carté" experience, and everyone chose the Brownie "al a Modé." Instead of a few moderate laws to raise standards in food, and to pay for more people going to college, we didn't look at each other as a resource that needed to be invested in.

I don't want a mommy state -- but I also recognize that every one of us is slightly irrational. But not in all things. The important balance is to realize, that NO EXTREME is going to work. Forcing helmets on everyone is not a good idea -- except when we drive a motor cycle. And allowing the "market" to decide good health in our schools and fast food is also a bad idea -- because there is no bottom to what they will do to make their food yummy, addictive, and as cheap as possible.

I bring up food because we can all see that it has had major impacts on health. Some of us work out and eat right -- but that is only some of us (not me, these days -- but it used to be). Latest research showing that junk food causes effects like Alzheimer's; http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE4AR48G20081128 -- that's just one article, and we will have another one like it next week. We've allowed the marketplace to add rat poison to babies milk -- and now the FDA is trying to lower standards so that "some" of this protein boosting toxic waste is OK. We've allowed lead paint on toys, Fluoride (a waste product form aluminum) in our water supply, Benzene in Fuel (it's 50% in gas and has no purpose other than saving the costs for disposal), and Corn Syrup -- which gets a subsidy, to replace something we can digest in almost all our food. The use Corn to fatten up all the livestock in the country, yet somehow, we can't seem to determine that this fattens up people as well? Huh, I guess we also let the free market decide what we get taught, right?

As we've discussed; Conservatives distrust human nature, and Liberals tend to trust human nature. You cannot go too far in either direction. You should always assume that people can be trusted, but make contingencies for when they aren't. However, we've perverted this to mean; the Citizen is not trusted, and is spied upon, but Corporations and people in power, get the assumption of innocence and no oversight, until someone can prove without a doubt in a court of law that they are guilty -- but of course, you will have to break the law and run against Corporate Secrets laws in order to prove this, so you will probably be ruined in the process.

We've got to get back to distrusting ANYONE with power, and requiring them to prove themselves, and leaving the people without power, the Hell alone until they get some. We've got to look at the common good, and not leave it up to the decision of a corporate balance sheet -- which more often than not, give us good research into new ways to hook our kids on junk food.

William_Shatner said...

Robert said...
An interesting thing about taxation shows that the higher corporate taxes are, the better off corporations are. Part of this is a result of greed. In order to minimize the amount of money that the corporation is taxed for, corporations reduce the amount of profit that goes back to shareholders and top management and instead reinvests profits into the company itself.


>> You just made a bunch of Conservatives heads explode.

Yes it is true, but nobody is going to believe this point. If you are going to be taxed a lot, and your only way to reduce taxes is investment -- you invest.

But, if you spend your money on think-tanks and media outlets, you can get everyone thinking that lower taxes makes a great economy. That second alternative is actually, much cheaper for the owners, and you get back about a 1,000 for every $1 you spend on a Congressman. But it inevitably leads to a market failure.

William_Shatner said...


Rewinn said...
Of course, such ideas are contrary to contemporary dogma taught in econ 101, Business programs and the Nightly News. It may be that MBAs, Econ degrees and the like produce not a corp of managers but a coterie of priests.


That was what I was trying to say on the last blog topic. My frustration in a large company, that pretends that there is some sort of "executive meritocracy" is that it really is about "group think." MBAs and the like, get picked to run companies, because they think the right way. You promote friends who will promote you. If you get high enough on the latter, you join a country club.

Why are most CEOs from Yale and Harvard? Because most CEOs are from Yale and Harvard.

Executive compensation is decided by other executives. From there, they hire people with the belief system that compensation is based upon merit -- and it is a self-referencial truth. Therefore, people without money, must be flawed and deserve their position. The Founding Fathers, fought off a bunch of royalists, to create a noble land that looked out for the "Well Fare" of the common man, only to produce a society of people who believe in royalties, paid for a new class of robber barons. I know that is a bit broad-brush and extreme. We have things more right than wrong. But, yeah, we've got too many people who have bought into the status quo of Business royalists. MBAs are not learning useful things, so much as they are learning the correct belief system.

All this will become really obvious in about a year. But history repeats, because the people who made a profit from the mistakes of the past, make sure they use those ill gotten gains to buy up the history publishing companies.

Robert said...

I've actually seen a webcomic explanation on why Meritocracies don't work. In short, human nature works against the very fundamentals of a Meritocratic society, and our own need to succeed allows ruthless, less talented people to rise to power.

The scary thing about Poisoned Minds is that (outside of the superintelligent artificial intelligence manipulating things behind the scenes), the author has been amazingly prescient on some of the elements that led to the sociopolitical situation in his scifi future (there are two timelines going on in the comic, one set a hundred or so years in the future, the other in the "present day").

Rob H.

William_Shatner said...


CSM said...
And don't whine about deregulation per se when in recent years we got Sarbanes-Oxley and the mark to market rule, not to mention Jesse Jackson and company extorting banks who didn't give loans to the uncreditworthy.


Well, talk about conflating different things. This sounds about like blaming the Sierra Club for the price spikes in oil. The tiny tail is not wagging the dog here. The powerful banks, do what the powerful banks want to do, and they loan to the uncreditworthy because they know they can make a buck, and make a second buck when we bail them out -- which we always do. Jessie Jackson has zero power.

Sarbanes-Oxley stinks, and doesn't protect us from the fraud that caused the problem -- which is the point. It means we need a lot more people documenting useless info -- and that is more jobs. It creates a barrier to entry -- which is what the big companies that put it in place wanted. Most legislation passing all these rules, is not to protect the public, but to provide barriers to entry and is drafted by the big companies -- contrary to popular opinion, which seems also to be drafted by big PR agencies.

The Powerful are calling the shots. They didn't go bankrupt because of defaults on loans -- they already knew were going to default when they sold them. They went bankrupt because they were greedy, and over-leveraged in high gain/high risk ventures.

William_Shatner said...

Looks like I got a bit pent up from a Week off with the family.


Anonymous said...
I have never commented before but it just occurred to me that this idea could easily be applied to the state of the publishing industry today.

How many articles have I read that indicate how much the marketing and promotion arms (MBA heavy, of course) of the super-consolidated modern publishing houses have nearly wiped out the editor/author relationship in order to maximize returns and please shareholders?

Perhaps its better to look at economies as eco-systems. When we put the tigers in charge, they see no value in trees and grasslands because it only gets in the way of them catching and killing their prey.

You can see this negative feed-back loop happening all over. WE have to re-examine whether the constant increase in profits is even feasible in this world anymore. Even if we had unlimited resources and power -- could the planet sustain it? Probably not. I suspect that the "Green movement" is the best way to go, where we seek to value things like the CPU market already has, like; "calculations per watt." We could build an economy on constantly finding ways to do more with less. It would be a different culture -- but even if it is pointless to find how to make a computer with say, less sand -- it is still a way to "keep score" which seems to be fundamentally necessary to people. I'm hoping to grow out of that, but not many of us can before the age of 75.

>> @DB,
I'd buy into some reading club, but it would take away from Blogging. And my two jobs. And my family with kids. We just got a dog.

It is either your "Universe" magazine or a puppy at this point. Have you seen this pup? He is like a curly white cotton ball, and he has cute paws. He also has this tiny little whine. "Mm, mmm, mmm." That means he needs to go out and potty. Only 3 weeks old and he knows how to communicate to another species. We had a President who couldn't communicate to his own. My dog is a genius.

I'm looking for names. Supposedly he is from some breed called; "Bison Fridge" or some sort. Hypoallergenic and very calm. Not so sure he isn't a cat. Basically, all those cute stuffed puppies that are sold to little girls look like this dog. Here are the names so far;
Casper
Dash
Lint
See Foo (um, the name of a Kung Fu teacher -- misspelled of course)
Snow Monster
Dipity (short for Serendipity)

I'd love a more ingenious literary name, but I don't have the vast neural connection to factoids of many around here -- apparently fast food has done its work. Getting a good name is important.

Stefan Jones said...

"In short, human nature works against the very fundamentals of a Meritocratic society."

Heeyyyyy, what are you trying to pull? That strip is about sapient foxes. No fair trying to apply their sociobiological tropisms to us.

(Yes, I'm being a wise-ass.)

Tony Fisk said...

Rather than treating the shrinking economy as a threat, consider it as an opportunity.

Oh, the puppy? Call him 'Sirius'.

He'll be reading Stapledon, and *demanding* (MM-MMMM!) a Universe subscription in no time!

... Maybe make that 'Gromit'.

(I haven't used the coupon because my subscription is still current. Fair point about the blog and family, however)

'cuffash': what people wear at the end of their arms.

Tony Fisk said...

We need a name for this activity!

(liffcapcha?)

ejikers: hedgehogs thumbing a lift

Matt DeBlass said...

Sorry Dr. B, I'm gonna have to plead poverty this month.
I dumped November's meager discretionary income on my major project for the month, logistics for my first marathon (Philadelphia, yes I finished, yes I'm bragging, I was slow but I finished) and will take a bit to catch up to where I can spend on anything that I can't eat or put in my gas tank.

"ingollik": A far-future dialect of Anglic

Doug S. said...

I didn't sign up for Universe. I looked at the price, and decided not to subscribe. So, for me, yes, it's a price issue.

It's $30 per year. There are six issues per year. That makes for a price of $5 per issue.

Back issues are not included, but they can be bought for an additional $30.

I can see the names of the stories available in the back issues, but I do not know how long they are. Therefore, I do not know how much quantity of content I would be buying for my $30 - and for $30, I could buy several paperback novels.

(Incidentally, I don't spend my own money on print magazine subscriptions or movie tickets, either.)

How big is the coupon code discount, anyway? You never said how much it was worth...

Tony Fisk said...

for $30, I could buy several paperback novels.
....new paperbacks?

rerich: what bailouts do.

Cliff said...

Cliff... ASIMOV's is hopeless. Judith Berman a decade ago studied it and found that it systematically despises the future. It is Isaac Asimov's Magazine of Nostaligia, Ennui and Despair.

That sounds eerily like the emotions that crop up all too often when I read it.
Any idea where I might be able to find Berman's study on it?

And as it happens, my subscription renewal just came in the mail. Maybe I will forgo it and switch to Baen's.

Tony Fisk said...

"Judith Berman Asimov"

Google is your friend

William_Shatner said...

Serius?
Is that for "seriously"
or Serius satellite, or the star cluster, or the constellation. Is that a wolf?
Cereus? Did you mean Cerebus?
Or related to this? Sirius Mystery, Dogon tribe (Skeptical Inquirer Fall 1978)
This seems a better fit; SIRIUS NO DENSETSU (A.K.A. The Sea Prince and the Fire Child)
I'll have to wait for the kids to see it and get inspired.
The name just doesn't seem "cute" enough.

I guess Google can make all of us seem like obscure reference geniuses. Sounds like a good movie though.

Maybe I need to check out some old Chechwa (sp?) tribal words, since my kids are 50% Inca-American princes.

Tony Fisk said...

The name just doesn't seem "cute" enough.

...hence the late inclusion of 'Gromit'

Not 'fluffy' enough? Make him a pocket dog. Plasticine and lint will work wonders!

(My daughter has a turtle called 'fluffy'. Actually, she has a lot of turtles... it really is turtles all the way, down here!)

predo: chechwan term for 'liffcapcha'

Tom Craver said...

If high taxes encourage corporations to re-invest, rather than return their profits to shareholders...then high taxes are a bad idea.

Corporations commonly blow huge wads of cash "investing" by buying up hot companies in attempts to break into new business areas, then eventually have to bail out and take a big tax loss.

As a shareholder, I'd rather they'd return the money to me. I may spend it - helping the economy - or I may re-invest it. The latter would push up stock prices, which would in turn make it more attractive to invest in start-up companies who will likely do much better by focusing solely on that new business area.

"Unknol" - the de-edification that takes place over spring or summer breaks.

Robert said...

@Tom - Have you not looked at what businesses have been doing with the tax cuts the Shrub gave them? Mergers and Consolidations up the wazoo. Reinvesting in the company means doing such things as infrastructure improvements, purchasing new computers for workers, investing in new office chairs and in programs to ensure workers don't suffer from workplace injuries. It means behaving responsibly.

Those print companies that have invested in new technologies are able to print books cheaper and in smaller numbers than the old traditional printers. This allows them to gain more of a profit as a result.

Companies also invest in research and development, and then come out with long-term product development to succeed beyond the next year. Those companies that are private and invest profits back into the company itself often are more successful than companies that squeeze every last iota of profit out of the corporation and return it to selfish stockholders who punish the company at the smallest sign of weakness. (And having stocks drop significantly because profits were ONE FREAKING CENT below expectations is a sign of selfishness and idiocy.)

If you look at Dr. Brin's past blogs, you will notice something: industry and business does better under the "tax and spend" Democrats than under the "lower taxes" Republicans.

Rob H.

Tom Craver said...

Robert - Who's talking about tax cuts?

My preference would be to tax all corporate profits (excluding operations and maintenence, but not expansion or losses to bad corporate investments) directly to the shareholders, at their individual tax rates. Raise the top personal tax rate, if necessary, to keep it revenue neutral.

Corporations could keep and re-invest profits - but they'd better have a sensible explanation ready for the shareholders who'd be paying the taxes.

It would encourage investors to insist on corporate accountability for internal investments.

A corporate executive who blows hundreds of millions on a failed expansion into a new line of business shouldn't be praised for "risk-taking" - he should be pilloried for not being able to make the investment work, or for investing in an un-workable scheme.

Leave "risk-taking" to start-up companies that could grow on the vast amounts of capital this would shake loose from corporations. Corporations do best and are most efficient when focused on a single clear-cut area of business. Leave risk-spreading and diversification to mutual funds.

Robert said...

Focusing on the "reliable" product and not taking risks is what got the automotive industry in the dire straights it is currently in. Rather than pushing the technology to build more and more fuel-efficient cars, they built more and more gas-inefficient cars that were comfortable and looked pretty, and worked through advertising so that smaller cars weren't as "sexy" or "American."

Businesses need to indulge in risk in order to grow. It's just they need to moderate that risk and ensure it doesn't risk bankrupting the company. In addition, the religious pursuit of profits has resulted in companies laying off 30% of its workers and insisting the other 70% of the workers pick up that slack... and when they do, then laying off another 20% of the workers and pushing employees to pick up that slack as well.

Profits are but one element a company should strive for, and it should not be the fulcrum on which the success of a company is measured. Such things as employee satisfaction, quality of products, company image, and the social responsibility of the company are equally important, and all together give a far more healthy view of the state a company is in.

A company could have monstrous profits, but a product that sucks and is defective, a reputation as a company that poisons the environment and ignores its responsibilities, and workers who hate working there. Do you honestly think profits will remain hot a few years down the line, especially if there's a competitor who has a better product and a far healthier work environment?

Shareholders don't often look at the entire picture. They look at their own personal profits and if it's not as high as they want, they get upset and demand action. It is motivated by greed rather than sound business practices, and it's unhealthy for industry and for society as a whole. And it is part of what has led us to the edge of a cliff that is crumbling.

Rob H.

William_Shatner said...

The "Stockholder" is the most important thing for a company has got to go - along with the fantasy that markets are self-correcting.

Venture Capital starts a company, and Stock helps it get a cheap loan in a sense, in order to improve and re-invest in the company. Without a tax incentive to coerce re-investment, the whole exercise is pointless. The stock market has become a high-tech gambling casino, and the Derivatives market even worse. Since Paulson and Bernanke, found it to be their jobs to let the kids run the candy store, nobody is stopping companies from being "Market Makers" a nice way of saying "Stock Manipulators."

If you want stocks to mean something and help invest in a better future, then make them two years or more between sale -- or a steep penalty if not for some emergency. You should actually prevent employees from owning stock -- at least the executives, because they should be depending upon the long-term value of the company and their job, not trying to fluff up the stock value every quarter. Our entire economy has just-in-time inventories and get rich quick investing. Other than a few things, like tax-payer sponsored research on drugs, which the drug companies are happy to patent and charge us extra for, there is little long term research outside of Universities.

The Oil Industry does not invest. The Steel Industry does not invest. The real money is playing with paper -- or it was, until about a month ago, when that little house of cards collapsed.

When John Q Executive wakes up in the morning, he should be thinking; "How do I make my company better?" Rather than; "How do I help my stock portfolio." Heck, we could just have a government run business bank and scrap all stocks for all I care. The market is useless for evaluating companies now. The "bet" is based upon what the stock will do in a few days, and the company is just the pony of the week. Meanwhile, we have 401K plans that automatically invest in stocks -- all sorts of automatic buying. Do all these companies automatically go up? No. But yet, we constantly invest as if it does. So, IBM isn't valued as to what IBM can do in 10 years, IBM is valued based upon the share of the market it will return in a quarter. Enough said.

>> I was listening to Thom Hartmann, and a caller had a great idea for the auto industry. Allow Americans to reserve a plugin-hybrid or electric car from any of the big three automakers. $5000-$10,000 that would sit in an account and allow automakers to borrow against, until delivery -- targeted in 2 years. So, a citizen could say; "I'll buy a car with a deep discount." And they start putting some earnest money away for it, and get the "bail out" money, but on contingency for delivery.

It re-builds a market for cars which is drying up, and it forces innovation. The strings attached means that the automakers get nothing, if they try to pull up ropes and go to China or Mexico. Sounds like a great idea to me.

William_Shatner said...

To add to what Rob H. said...

The idea of forcing great profits from a company may be fundamentally unsupportable as a culture and a planet. It will blow a few gaskets -- but investments should be diminished as a way to make money.

I have had stocks, but the most VALUE or return I've ever gotten, is from what I do in labor. However, this is not true of true capitalists, those who make money from investments.

It's kind of like the idea of royalties for patents -- it was intended to spur innovation, likewise, investment is intended to spur growth. But why is an auto manufacturer or bank going to invest in a plant, when more money can be made on some financial venture? Or in buying up the competition? And why stay in America at all, when you can lobby congress, to get rid of Tariffs and just make everything in a country that has no labor laws or safety constraints? There is very little incentive to build anything in the USA.

If a company does not grow more than 5% a year - it is a bad stock investment. Yet it provides jobs. It may actually be vital to industry -- like the steel plants. If Capital Gains were taxed higher, money may leave the country.

We need a system that changes the balance between Labor and Capital -- because it is mostly Labor vs. Capital. What you are saying when you want to make Shareholder value a better ROI, is that you want to compensate Labor less -- add in Royalties, and I think those are the principle ways to make money. We used to understand this, but there has been a lot of education, to make workers think that lifting all the Yachts, will also lift all the Row Boats. How's that working? The past 26 years has seen a sharp increase in productivity, and wages have flat lined. They used to track within a percentage point except for things like Depressions and Wars.

When the wealthy had a 90% tax rate, we had plenty of growth and innovation. Oh, you don't want to be wealthy or own a business because the taxes are too high? Well, I'd be happy with 90% tax on $3 Million per year -- so for every wealthy whiner, there are ten more people who would take their place. I don't think it needs to be that high -- but for a time, there needs to be a surcharge on wealth as a "War and Financial Bail Out Tax." It should go on imported energy products and dividends and it should be right there in their face when they pay taxes. Or tax trades that Financial Institutions make by 1% -- that should cover their handout. They have this idea that we can borrow from China and the Saudis forever -- yeah, well forever just ended folks.

William_Shatner said...

Sorry to be so chatty on the blog, but I was Just listening to "Ring of Fire" and had to share. This should help spread some outrage and perspective to those Ostriches who still think that Unions are the problem;

Lost in the discussion of how competitive Ford is to Toyota is the following little statistic;
The CEO at Ford makes $30,208 per hour based upon a 60 hour work week, meanwhile the Toyota CEO makes $289 per hour based on that same 60 hour work week for a successful company. No telling if the Ford CEO actually works 60 hours -- but what is a few hundred Million dollars give or take a year? Perhaps if we doubled this man's salary, he might be more inspired to build plug-in hybrids like Toyota.

Based on the totally inflated figure of US auto workers making $75 per hour (that is based upon owed pension funds to retired workers, healthcare and perhaps even executive funds -- the real hourly wage is $28 -- thank our craptastic media for missing that) That is the pay of 402 workers per hour, or a little over 1200 workers if we were talking about actual compensation. The Toyota CEO gets the pay of 3.8 workers.

Of course, the CEO of Ford lost $500 million the last two years. I think I found it -- it's sitting in his f-ing pay check. In this same time, Toyota's market share has risen to $245 Billion.

Does the media mention that Toyota also pays for its worker's healthcare in Japan?

David Brin said...

SATIRES

Atlas Shrugged Updated For The Current Financial Crisis.
By Jeremiah Tucker
http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/11/20tucker.html

In The Know: Should The Government Stop Dumping Money Into A Giant Hole?
http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=513

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Our two fuzz balls (60 lbs. and 70 lbs.) are named Sheila and Sasha. Daughter likes "S" names. I like Sirius. Lots of different meanings a connotations. And it can be shortened to Siri.

Man, William_Shatner's on a roll. Good stuff; thanks!

Gilmoure said...

Looks like common citizens save the day again.

For Heroes of Mumbai, Terror Was a Call to Action

On any ordinary day, Vishnu Datta Ram Zende used the public-address system at Mumbai’s largest railway station to direct busy hordes of travelers to their trains.

But last Wednesday just before 10 p.m., when he heard a loud explosion and saw people running across the platform, he gripped his microphone and calmly directed a panicked crowd toward the safest exit. The station, Victoria Terminus, it turned out, was suddenly under attack, the beginning of a three-day siege by a handful of young, heavily armed gunmen.

“Walk to the back and leave the station through Gate No. 1,” he chanted alternately in Hindi and Marathi, barely stopping to take a breath until the platform was cleared. No sooner, gunmen located his announcement booth and fired, puncturing one of the windows. Mr. Zende was not hurt.

Overnight, Mr. Zende became one of Mumbai’s new heroes, their humanity all the more striking in the face of the inhumanity of the gunmen. As the city faced one of the most horrific terrorist attacks in the nation’s history, many ordinary citizens like Mr. Zende, 37, displayed extraordinary grace.

Many times, they did so at considerable personal risk, performing acts of heroism that were not part of their job descriptions. Without their quick thinking and common sense, the toll of the attacks would most likely have been even greater than the 173 confirmed dead on Monday.

Cliff said...

Berman's piece was interesting. (For those who are lazy like me:
www.judithberman.net/sffuture.html )

But her critique was leveled at the field of SF in general for becoming too backward looking, based on the assumption that editor Gardner Dozois was picking the best stories available.

My hunch is that there is still a bias in Asimov's towards stories about old people and fear of the future. But it'd be interesting to see a similar comparison performed today and see how things have changed.
For instance, I have seen quite a few stories that reflect the conditions of our current state of war.

mertins - medieval castle decorations, shaped as playful sprites

William_Shatner said...

Just read http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/11/20tucker.html
It was worth it:

"There's a whole world out there of byzantine financial products just waiting to be invented, Dagny. Let the leeches run my factories into the ground! I hope they do! I've taken out more insurance on a single Rearden Steel bond than the entire company is even worth! When my old company finally tanks, I'll make a cool $877 million."
...
Their eyes locked with an intensity she was only beginning to understand. Yes, Hank ... claim me ... If we're to win the battle against the leeches, we must get it on ... right now ... Don't let them torture us for our happiness ... or our billions.
...
He fell upon her like a savage, wielding his mouth like a machete...
...
"Collateralized debt obligation."
"YES! YES! YES!"
...
John Galt's face betrayed no signs of pain or fear or guilt, and his body had the clean tensile strength of a foundry casting with skin the color of a polished full-port brass valve. In the center of this secret mountain valley where the titans of Wall Street had retreated for an extended junket was a 3-foot-tall dollar sign of pure gold atop a granite column. It was tacky, yes, but it was also their emblem, a symbol of their triumph.
...
"And that's why I created the financial plan you found. It's true, it works. But it is not sustainable. It will ruin this country's financial system, and then we'll see how those who despise us prosper when their lenders and investors refuse to invest or lend." He laughed joylessly. "Funny, isn't it? I must destroy the very thing I love in order to save it."
"Just to avoid paying taxes?"
"I do not compromise my beliefs, and I will kill anyone who asks me to!"
...
He shrugged. "What is infinity?"
She let out a rich, powerful moan, like the sound of a passing diesel train in the night.

/Classic

Tom Craver said...

Robert -

Corporations are driven by current tax policy to retain profits so shareholders can defer paying capital gains taxes. Since they're holding onto the shareholder's profits, they are driven to make that capital yield more profits, by growing and expanding.

They run into a Corporate Peter Principle - expand to the point where their failures wipe out net capital accumulation. Then get stuck there until they lose track of their core mission, and collapse in the face of competition.

So I have to ask - why are you so set on pushing for capital accumulation into ever fewer, ever larger, ever less efficient existing corporations, headed by ever fewer executives being paid ever higher salaries?

Why do you want to encourage corporate incompetence, exporting jobs to where workers can be more easily exploited, shoddy products, financial game-playing, and so on?

Because that's what you're arguing for, even if you haven't realized it.

The economy would function more efficiently (and perhaps even more kindly in the long term) if tax policy instead drove corporations to return profits to shareholders, who would in turn be driven to invest in more efficient and innovative companies.

Ilithi Dragon said...

Wow, a lot of interesting info there, Shat, thanks! Gonna have to go back through it later and take notes.


On Universe: I intend to subscribe, but haven't gotten around to it yet - busy weekend over the holiday.


Slespi: Sleep aid in the form of a slurpy.

Ilithi Dragon said...

Hey, you guys wouldn't happen to have solid information/references to refute the "the Government/Democrats forced the banks to make bad loans" argument handy, would you? I did some quick searching, and didn't turn up much (mostly just "OMGWTFBBQ!!11! The Government/Democrats FORCED the banks to make bad loans!!!111!one!1" stuff). I can probably find it on my own after a more in-depth search, but I figure somebody here probably has a handy reference that'll save me an in-depth search. Thanks!

Mattei: Having matte tones?

Rob said...

Ilithi,

The line of reasoning stems from the idea that Democratic congresscritters labeled tight credit standards as "racist", due to the coincidence of poverty with racial minorities. The intent was to open up opportunity for honest, hardworking minorities.

Unfortunately for that line of reasoning, the labeling by congresscritters was bipartisan, as far as I've been able to see.

Cliff said...

Wait a second, I thought it was an official plank of the GOP platform to open up loans and mortgages for the lower classes.
I could swear I've seen Brin post that here several times - I'll go look for it.

Cliff said...

There it is, posted by Stefan Jones:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2008/09/who-is-credible-to-fix-mess-its-time.html

I posted the 2004 REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM which has several paragraphs lauding the ownership society and calling for barriers to be lowered to allow minorities to get homes. Oh, and how the party could help by eliminating regulations so more homes could be built, and helping people get homes without down payments.

All there in black and white:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showplatforms.php?platindex=R2004

As for Illithi's initial question - try searching for some legislation Phil Gramm snuck through around 2000; it's my understanding that he managed to get a bunch of this stuff deregulated.

Ilithi Dragon said...

Thanks, guys!

I've talked to people who've been blaming that for the state of the economy, and/or using it as a stick to beat against 'Leftist Democrats/Liberals', and I'm looking for a solid source I can reference to show them wrong. I'm also trying to put together a rough but fairly easily-explainable picture of why our economy is in the state it is, with the sources and information to back it up. I think I have a good idea already, just not refined and informed enough to present to other people. Definitely gonna have to do more of my own research on that, though.

Cliff said...

Illithi - here's a clip of an economist, Peter Schiff going on to Fox News and explaining why we are in so much trouble. It's entertaining because the blowhards ridicule him mercilessly (thus showing how horrendously wrong they are). But he also makes a lot of good points.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/12/01/save-money-turn-off-your-tv/

(If Blogger doesn't like the long link, I'll get a tiny url for it.)

imbersh - phrase used by drunk people demanding payment.

Ilithi Dragon said...

Thanks, Cliff! I can get the link fine, but the computer I'm on right now can't handle videos. I'll give it a look when I get home.

licaton: That theoretical partical William_Shatner was talking about earlier.

David Brin said...

The frantic pretzel-writhing of the right would be hilarious, if it did not show us to be members of a species capable of utter delusion. And they call ME a fantasy writer?

The "ownership society" measures were a purely republican push, to increase the number of "greater fools" in every market, from mortgages to stocks to wild investment schemes, all in order to inflate the value of assets already owned by top Republicans.

1) sucking in vast numbers of under-qualified mortgage buyers was only part of it. There was also the push for negative mortgaging... getting millions of Americans to draw down their home equity. THAT had no racial-justice silver lining. It was simply a way to vampire value out of middle class Americans.

(It amounted to a a much larger share of recent equity loss than a few measly billions lent to a few poor ghetto folks.)

2) The attempt to privatize Social Security... had it been allowed... would have destroyed by now several trillions of dollars in value from the SSI fund. This is utterly inarguable and should be pushed in the faces of those fanatics,. relentlessly and forcefully.

The purpose of this privatization was never to let individuals benefit. It was to flood the stock markets with a hundred million new buyers of stock! Even if everything had been honest, that would have primarily benefited the then-current OWNERS of stock, largely the GOP-rich. Who would have sold high, so that average Americans could later sell-low.

But of course, it WASN'T honest. We all would have been screwed. Fortunately, the dems stopped this one.

(Ironically, if the Dow suffers another steep plunge, THAT is when I might be happy to see part og the SSI fund buy up tons of cheap stock.)

3) Are they actually telling us that there are 600 trillion dollars worth of fraudulent mortgages in America? That a few hundred thousand poor black people, lying about their income, are actually to blame for a scam that dwarfs all US expenditures on all its wars, put together?

(In fact, it has been proved that it was mortgage BROKERS who did most of the lying, pushing bad mortgages in order to draw commission, knowing they would never be responsible for the bad loans. A collapse of the banking fiduciary relationship that was entirely Wall Street and GOP-driven.)

These delusional assholes need to be hammered again and again.

98% of the deficit spending and obligations ever incurred by the United States happened under the watch - and policies - of four Republican presidents. Who had only one consistent priority. To benefit an already outrageously rich top 0.1%.

Excluding Eisenhower, capitalism and small business and markets and even stock values ALWAYS do better under democrats. That is utterly and always. Repeat that in their faces. Always always always......

The CEO caste has ripped us off more, and destroyed more value, than the hated US government could ever be remotely accused-of.

Adam Smith proclaimed that freedom and markets have far more to fear from aristocratic cronyism than from socialism. Which is why the right has been turning its back on the founder of capitalism theory.

BOTH socialism and crony elitism are deadly enemies of sensible market freedom. But the obsession of the right with just one of them is tantamount to tunnel vision psychosis.

Keith David It's-a-Taylor-Series! Smeltz said...

>> Try calculating what fraction of the population in most ancient nations must have been descended from the harems of kings. (Recent data show that 8% of the Chinese population, today, is directly descended from Ghengiz Khan.)

To the best of my knowledge, almost all of us are directly descended from the harems of kings. (I believe I am descended from both Charlemagne and Buddha.)

However, while that is no doubt because kings had more babies than the rest of us, part of that may be because the babies of kings were better documented than those of the rest of us. Certainly, Charlemagne for one kept excellent records.

If we were to count Charlemagne's decedents, we would probably find that he had many more than the average peasant working for him. But "number of decedents" doesn't tell us the whole story either because it doesn't record the level of (non-harmful) inbreeding along the way, does it?

But none of that is why I'm posting. My primary concern is that the lines connecting me to Charlemagne and Buddha, while they are probably direct, are so long that the genes might be diluted beyond recovery. How can I measure the significance of their effect on me? How can I compare that with the effect of the genes of their advisors and noblemen?

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Amazing. The worst economic and cultural crisis of all time will go down in history horribly misunderstood. What a pathetic bunch of ignorant fools we have become. Consumer junkie credit card morons. Perfect little victims.

Don’t believe one optimistic word from any public figure about the economy or humanity in general. They are part of the problem. Its like a game of Monopoly. In America, the richest 1%, now hold ALMOST 1/2 OF ALL UNITED STATES WEALTH. Unlike ‘lesser’ estimates, this includes all stocks, bonds, cash, offshore accounts, and material assets held by America’s richest 1%. Even that filthy pig Oprah Winfrey acknowledged that it was near 50% in 2006. Naturally, she put her own ‘humanitarian’ spin on it. Calling attention to her own ‘good will’. WHAT A DISGUSTING SELF-CENTERED SELF-PROMOTING HYPOCRITE SLOB. THE RICHEST ONE PERCENT HAVE LITERALLY MADE WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. Don’t fall for any of their 'good will' ‘humanitarian’ CRAP. ITS A SHAM. THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUSING THE SAME PROBLEMS THEY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT. THE EQUATION THEY STAND FOR ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK. Ask any professor of economics. Money does not grow on trees. The government can’t just print up more on a whim. There are serious concequences for doing so. Regardless, there is always a relative limit to the wealth within ANY economy of ANY size. So when too much wealth accumulates at the top, the currency looses value, the middle class slip further into debt, and the lower class further into poverty. A similar rule applies worldwide. The world’s richest 1% now own over 40% of ALL WORLD WEALTH. This is EVEN AFTER you account for all of this ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS from celebrities and executives. ITS A SHAM. As they get richer and richer, less wealth is left circulating beneath them. This is the single greatest underlying cause for the current US recession. The middle class can no longer afford to pay all the bills or sustain their share of the economy. Their wealth has been gradually transfered to the richest 1%. One way or another, we suffer because of their incredible greed. We are talking about TRILLIONS of dollars which have been transfered FROM US TO THEM. All over a period of about 30 years. Thats Reaganomics for you. The wealth does not ‘trickle down’ as we were told it would. It just accumulates at the top. Shrinking the middle class and expanding the lower class. Causing a domino effect of socio-economic problems. But the rich will never stop. They just keep getting richer. Leaving even less of the pie for the other 99% of us to share. At the same time, they throw back a few tax deductible crumbs and call themselves 'heros' or ‘humanitarians’. Cashing in on the PR and getting even richer the following year. IT CAN’T WORK THIS WAY. Their bogus efforts to make the world a better place can not possibly succeed. Any ‘humanitarian’ progress made in one area will be lost in another. EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK THIS WAY. This is going to end very much like a giant game of Monopoly. The current US recession will drag on for years and lead into the worst US depression of all time. The richest 1% will live like royalty while the rest of us fight over jobs, food, and gasoline. So don’t fall for any of this 'good will' 'humanitarian' BS from Hollywood, Pro Sports, and Wall Street PIGS. ITS A SHAM. Remember: They are filthy rich EVEN AFTER their tax deductible contributions. They get richer as we speak. They absolutely will not stop. Greedy pigs. Now, we are headed for the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time. Crime, poverty, and suicide will skyrocket. SEND A “THANK YOU” NOTE TO YOUR FAVORITE MILLIONAIRE. ITS THEIR FAULT. I’m not discounting other factors like China, subprime, or gas prices. But all of those factors combined still pale in comparison to that HUGE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Anyway, those other factors are related and further aggrivated because of GREED. If it weren’t for the OBSCENE distribution of bottom line wealth within our country, there never would have been such a market for subprime to begin with. IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE OBSCENE, UNREASONABLE, ILLOGICAL, AND IMMORAL DISTRIBUTION OF UNITED STATES WEALTH, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUCH A MARKET FOR SUBPRIME AND THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A COLLAPSE IN THE HOUSING MARKET. Subprime did not cause this collapse. Otherwise, it would have done so back in the '90's. It didn't. It only delayed and then suddenly accelerated the inevitable. In fact, the market for subprime literally multiplied over the last decade as the concentration of United States wealth became more extreme. This created a false boom along with artificially raised values and then a sudden decline. Otherwise, the market would have tanked years earlier at a slower rate. Make no mistake. The housing and stock markets would have been in decline by now with or without subprime. Which by the way, was another trick whipped up by greedy bankers, executives, and politicians. IT MADE THEM RICHER. Along with many investors, developers, attorneys, and public figures. Including three of the most greedy, self-serving, self-promoting, hypocrite pigs that have ever lived. The credit industry has been ENDORSED for years by Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, and Dr Phil. Every interest rate. Every late fee. Every NSF fee. Every hidden charge. Every page of fine print. The industry as a whole was endorsed by them. They told their own loyal fans to run out and support it. In fact, they specifically endorsed Countrywide by name. IT MADE THEM RICHER. In order to fully appreciate this, you must realize what a rotten trick Countrywide had up their sleeve to begin with. How it was later ENDORSED by OPRAH WINFREY, ELLEN DEGENERES, AND DR PHIL. How incredibly irresponsible they were. How they betrayed their own loyal fans. How they were PAID FOR IT. How they contributed to the artificial rise and accelerated fall of the US housing market. Not only by concentrating so much wealth. Not only by flaunting their own extravogant multi-mansion lifestyles. Not only by promoting this unrealistic concept of 'bigger, better, faster, upscale' EVERYTHING. But also by endorsing subprime. Don't believe what you've heard from them or any other filthy rich public figure. THEY ARE PAID LIARS. It wasn't just about irresponsible lending, borrowing, local banker bonuses, or weak oversight. That was going on BEFORE subprime. It was actually much more cruel and calculated. Orchestrated from the top down. 'Predatory lending' is just that. Their plan was to give easy credit to millions while the housing market was high, inflate the market even higher in the process, reap a few years worth of payments from unsuspecting buyers, allow them to accumulate little or no equity, lie in wait as those homes increased in value, then jack up their rates making it near impossible for those buyers to make the payments on time. At which time, those buyers would be evicted, their dreams shattered, and their homes forfeited. Which by then, from the mid '90's until mid '07', would be even higher in value and re-sold for a higher price. The plan was to be executed primarily while the market was strong. They got away with it for a decade even before the talk show pigs endorsed it. Leaving thousands of buyers with NOTHING to show for all those payments made. This incredibly cruel and calculated plan was orchestrated in part by Countrywide. THE SAME COUNTRYWIDE ENDORSED BY OPRAH WINFREY, ELLEN DEGENERES, AND DR PHIL. IT MADE THEM RICHER. It also made many of their loyal fans homeless. What a rotten, disgusting trio of greedy, self-serving, self-promoting, hypocrite pigs. What a rotten, disgusting, immoral way to turn a quick buck. To make as many people as possible love you. Then tell those love-sick people to run out and buy a product or service because you say so. Because you were PAID to endorse it. Without the slightest regard for the downside or anything but your own obscene bottom line. Thats why they did it. GREED. Now, there are similar ties between every major industry, every Fortune 500 company, and nearly every public figure. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. It also drives up the cost and consumption for nearly every product, service, and resource on the market. So don’t fall for their ‘good will’ 'humanitarian' BS. ITS A SHAM. NOTHING BUT A CALCULATED, TAX DEDUCTIBLE, MARKETING PLAN TO RAISE THE VALUE OF THEIR OWN IMAGE. If you fall for it, then you’re a fool. If you see any real difference between the moral character of a celebrity, politician, attorney, lobbyist, executive, or card shark, then you’re a fool. No offense fellow citizens. But we have been mislead by nearly every living public figure. We still are. Even now, they claim to be ‘hurting’ right along with the rest of us. As if gas prices actually effect the lifestyle or bottom line of a millionaire. ITS A LIE. IN 2007, THE RICHEST 1 PERCENT INCREASED THEIR AVERAGE BOTTOM LINE WEALTH AGAIN. Most of these financial assets are on the books. Others hidden. Material assets aren't always disclosed. But make no mistake. America's richest 1 percent keep getting richer. On average, they are now worth almost $5,000,000 each. Thats an all time high. As a group, their net worth is over $20,000,000,000,000. THATS OVER TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS. Another all time high. Which by the way, is much more than the entire middle and lower classes combined. Also more than enough to pay off our national debt, fund the Iraq war for a decade, repair our infrastructure, and bail out the US housing market. Still think that our biggest problem is China? Think again. Its the one percent club. That means every big name celebrity, athlete, executive, entrepreneur, developer, banker, and lottery winner. Along with many attorneys, doctors, and politicians. If they are rich, then they are part of the problem. Their incredible wealth was not ‘created’, ‘generated’, grown in their back yard, or printed up on their command. The lion's share was transfered FROM US TO THEM. Directly and indirectly. Its become near impossible to spend a dollar without making some greedy pig even richer. Don’t be fooled by the fall of the stock market, industry losses, lower profit margins, bank failures, or the occasional reported loss of a millionaire’s fortune. Overall, they just keep getting richer. They do so with little or no regard for their own industries or the economy as a whole. They are obsessed primarily with a desire to accumulate more personal wealth. They absolutely will not stop. Still, they have the nerve to pretend as if they care about ordinary people. ITS A LIE. NOTHING BUT CALCULATED PR CRAP. WAKE UP PEOPLE. THEIR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO WIN THE GAME. The one percent club will always say or do whatever it takes to get as rich as possible. Without the slightest regard for anything or anyone but themselves. Reaganomics. Their idea. Loans from China. Their idea. NAFTA. Their idea. CAFTA. Their idea. Outsourcing. Their idea. Downsizing. Their idea. Subprime. Their idea. High energy prices. Their idea. Oil ‘futures’. Their idea. The commercial lobbyist. Their idea. The multi-million dollar lawsuit. Their idea. The multi-million dollar endorsement deal. Their idea. $400 cell phones. Their idea. $200 cell phone bills. Their idea. $200 basketball shoes. Their idea. $30 late fees. Their idea. $30 NSF fees. Their idea. $20 DVDs. Their idea. $50 event tickets. Their idea. $30 books. Their idea. $400 PC operating systems. Their idea. $60 video games. Their idea. Obscene health care charges. Their idea. Subliminal advertising. Their idea. Commercial brainwash plots on TV. Their idea. Vioxx, and Celebrex. Their idea. Excessive medical testing. Their idea. The MASSIVE campaign to turn every American into a brainwashed, credit card, pharmaceutical, medical testing, love-sick, celebrity junkie. Their idea. IT WAS ALL THEIR IDEA. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. All of the above drive up the cost of living, shrink the middle class, concentrate the world’s wealth and resources, create a domino effect of socio-economic problems, and wreak havok on society. All of which have been CREATED AND ENDORSED by celebrities, athletes, executives, investors, developers, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and politicians. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. So don’t fall for any of their ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS. ITS A SHAM. NOTHING BUT TAX DEDUCTIBLE PR CRAP. In many cases, the ‘charitable’ contribution is almost entirely offset. Not to mention the opportunity to plug their name, image, product, and ‘good will’ all at once. Which is usually done just before or after the release of their latest commercial project. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. These greedy pigs even have the nerve to throw a fit and spin up a misleading defense with regard to ‘federal tax revenue’. ITS A SHAM. THEY SCREWED UP THE EQUATION TO BEGIN WITH. If the middle and lower classes had a greater share of the economic pie, they could easily cover a greater share of the federal tax revenue. They are held down in many ways because of greed. Wages remain stagnant for the vast majority because the executives, investors, developers, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, politicians, and entrepreneurs, are paid millions. They over-sell, over-charge, under-pay, outsource, lobby, re-locate, cut jobs, and cut benefits to increase or preserve their own obscene personal bottom line. They do so even at the expense of their own industries. Even after you account for the fall of the market and lower industry profit margins, the richest 1 percent still keep getting richer on average. Simply because their wealth is drawn from the majority in many ways. Not necessarily at the same rate, but still in their favor. They continue to reap more than they spend down or 'give back'. They have done so for many years. As more United States wealth rises to the top, the middle and lower classes inevitably suffer. This reduces the potential tax revenue drawn from those brackets. At the same time, it wreaks havok on middle and lower class communities and increases the need for financial aid. Not to mention the spike in crime because of it. There is a domino effect to consider. Caused primarily by a constant transfer of wealth from poor to rich. IT CAN’T WORK THIS WAY. But our leaders refuse to acknowledge this. Instead they come up with one trick after another to milk the system, feed the rich, and screw the majority. These decisions are heavily influensed by the 1% club. Every year, billions of federal tax dollars are diverted behind the scenes back to the rich and their respective industries. Loans from China have been necessary to compensate in part, for the red ink and the multi-trillion dollar transfer of wealth from poor to rich. At the same time, the feds have been pushing more financial burden onto the states who push them lower onto the cities. Again, the hardship is felt more by the majority and less by the 1% club. The rich prefer to live in exclusive areas or upper class communities. They get the best of everything. Reliable city services, new schools, freshly paved roads, new lighting, sidewalks, drainage, upscale parks, ect. The middle and lower class communities get little or nothing without a raise in basic service charges or a local tax increase. Which, they usually can’t afford. So the red ink flows followed by service cuts and lay-offs. All because of the OBSCENE distribution of bottom line wealth in this country. Anyway, when you account for all federal, state, local taxes, and fees, the middle class actually pay about the same rate as the rich. The devil is in the details. So when people forgive the rich for their incredible greed and then praise them for paying a greater share of the FEDERAL income taxes, its like nails on a chalk board. I can not accept any theory that our economy would suffer in any way with a more reasonable distribution of bottom line wealth. Afterall, it was more reasonable 30 years ago. Before Reaganomics came along. Before GREED became such an epidemic. Before we had an army of over-paid executives, investors, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, doctors, entrepreneurs, developers, lobbyists, and sold-out politicians to kiss their greedy asses. As a nation, we were in much better shape. Strong middle class, free and clear assets, home equity, savings, widespread prosperity, stable job market, lower deficit, ect. Our economy as a whole was much more stable and prosperous for the majority. WITHOUT LOANS FROM CHINA. Now, we have a more obscene distribution of bottom line wealth, and resources than ever before. We have a sold-out government, crumbling infrastructure, energy crisis, home forclosure epidemic, credit crunch, weak job market, weak middle class, weak US dollar, 13 figure national debt, and 12 figure annual shortfall. The cost of living is higher than ever before. Most people can’t even afford basic health care. ALL BECAUSE OF GREED. I really don’t blame the upper class in general. At least not as a group and not without exception. No economy could ever function without some reasonable scale of income and wealth. But it can’t be allowed to run wild like a mad dog. ALBERT EINSTEIN TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. UNBRIDLED CAPITALISM ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK. TOP HEAVY ECONOMIES CAN NOT BE SUSTAINED. THEY ALWAYS COLLAPSE. Bottom line: The richest 1 percent will soon tank the largest economy in the world. It will be catastrophic. Like nothing we’ve ever seen before. The American dream will be shattered. and thats just the beginning. Greed will eventually tank every major economy in the world. Causing millions more to struggle, fight, starve, suffer, and die. Oprah, Angelina, Brad, Bono, and Bill are not part of the solution. They are part of the problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HUMANITARIAN. EXTREME WEALTH MAKES WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. WITHOUT WORLD PROSPERITY, THERE WILL NEVER BE WORLD PEACE OR ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL. Of course, the rich will throw a fit and call me a madman. Of course, they will jump to small minded conclusions about 'jealousy', 'envy', or 'socialism'. Of course, their ignorant fans will do the same. You have to expect that. But I speak the truth. If you don’t believe me, then copy this entry and run it by any professor of economics or socio-economics. Then tell a friend. Call the local radio station. Re-post this entry or put it in your own words. Be one of the first to predict the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time and explain its underlying cause. WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

So what can we do about it? Well, not much. Unfortunately, we are stuck on a runaway train. The problem has gone unchecked for too many years. The US/global depression is comming thanks to the 1% club. It would take a massive effort by the vast majority to prevent it. Along with a voluntary sacrifice by the rich. THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. But if you believe in miracles, then spend your money as wisely as possible. Especially in middle and lower class communities. Check the Fortune 500 list and limit your support of high profit/low labor industries (Hollywood, pro sports, energy, credit, pharmaceutical, cable, satelite, internet advertising, video, and music, cell phone, high fashion, jewelry, ect.). Cancel all but one credit card for emergencies only. Call the provider and demand a lower rate. Be persistent. You may get it. (By the way. I gave this piece of advice long before NBC. I'm not looking for kudos. I'm telling you that NBC is directly affiliated with the credit industry. They could have given you this piece of advice years ago. Instead, they stood by and allowed their parent company, sister companies, and network sponsors to RIP YOU OFF. Even now, they give the occasional 'good guy' financial advice only because they are pressured to do so. They carefully balance every piece of 'good guy' advice with their primary goal to GET YOUR MONEY. Which is why their 'good guy' advice is so often followed by a plug for one of their sister companies, sister channels, network sponsors, or coorporate partners. For example: They tell you to pay down your credit card debt. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. Then, they tell you to GET MORE CREDIT CARDS and use them. Bad advice. One week Jean Chatzky tells you to avoid the 'free credit report' scam because it is always followed by a monthly service charge. Good advice. They should have given it years ago. The following week she stands by as her paid fellow advisor Carmen Wong strongly implies for you to have your credit monitered on a monthly basis and praises a caller for doing so. Bad advice. This is actually a plug for one of their network sponsors, coorporate partners, or parent company. The praise is nothing but a psychological trick. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Don't take ANYTHING they say at face value. Instead, read between the lines. Carefully weigh every piece of 'good guy' advice given against their primary goal. THEY WANT YOUR MONEY.). If you need a cell phone, then do your homework and find the best deal on a local pre-pay. You may be able to get one for as little as $10 a month. Don't text. The charge may seem low at the time but their profit margins are obscene. If you want home internet access, then check for a locally based provider. They can be found in nearly every city nationwide. Otherwise, use the least expensive big name provider, and share accounts whenever possible. If you need to search, then use the less popular search engines. They usually produce about same results anyway. Don't pay for any internet download. Their profit margins for such data transfers are obscene. Don’t pay to see any blockbuster movie. Instead, wait a few months and rent the DVD from a local store, borrow it, or buy it USED. Then loan it to a friend or family member. If you prefer the outing, then choose a film produced by the lesser known studeos with lower paid actors. If you want to see a big name game or event, then watch it in a local bar, club, or at home on network TV. Don’t buy any high end official merchandise and don’t support the high end sponsors. If its endorsed by a big name celebrity, then don’t buy it. If you can afford a new car, then make an exception for GM, Ford, and Dodge. If they don’t increase their market share soon, then a lot more people are going to get screwed out of their pensions and/or benefits. Of course, you must know by now to avoid those big trucks and SUVs unless you truly need one for its utility. Don’t be ashamed to buy a foreign car if you prefer it. Afterall, those with the most fuel efficient vehicles consume a lot less foreign oil. Which accounts for a pretty big chunk of our trade deficit. Its a reasonable trade-off. Anyway, the global economy is worth supporting to some extent. Its the obscene profit margins, trade deficits, and BS from OPEC that get us into trouble. Otherwise, the global economy would be a good thing for everyone. Just keep in mind that the big 3 are struggling and they do produce a few smaller reliable cars. Don’t frequent any high end department store, mall, or any business in a newly developed center or upper class community. By doing so, you encourage greedy developers, make them richer, and draw vital support away from industrial areas and away from the middle and lower class communities. Instead, support the local retailer and the less popular shopping centers. Especially in lower or middle class communities. If you can afford to buy a home, then do so. But go smaller and less expensive. Don’t get yourself in too deep and don’t buy into the newly developed condos or gated communities. Instead, find a modest home in a building or neighborhood at least 20 years old. If you live in one of the poorer states, then try to support its economy first and foremost. Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors, coorporate partners, and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. In particular, high profit pharmaceuticals and excessive medical testing. These plugs are countless, calculated, and VERY well written. They have commercial brainwashing down to a science. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Get off the couch and take care of your own body the way nature intended. There is no substitute. If you must see a doctor, then DEMAND that he/she give you more than 5 minutes of their undivided attention. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Be prepared with written questions about your condition and get them answered one at a time. If they refuse, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe excessive medical testing then ask if they personally own the equipment or if they are paid a commission for each test. If they find nothing new or signifigant, then dispute their unreasonable charges. If they prescribe a pharmaceutical, then ask for a generic. Better yet, concider a change in lifestyle or simple tolerance. If they still recommend the name brand pharmaceutical, then ask about any financial ties or conflict of interest. If they get offended, then dispute their unreasonable charges and consider a new doctor. If you must drug away your sniffles, worries, jitters, aches, and pains, then at least do your homework. Be aware of the possible side-effects ahead of time. Don't be surprised to find yourself back a week or two later feeling worse. In which case, you should dispute their unreasonable charges. If you are diagnosed with another medical condition, then ask your doctor what he/she has done to rule out those possible side-effects. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't let any greedy doctor treat you like a number, make you wait an hour, or rush you out of their office. Otherwise, dispute their unreasonable charges. Don't fall for this CRAP that doctors have no choice but to over-book their time or over-charge their patients because of a high overhead. ITS A LIE. YOUR DOCTOR IS MOST LIKELY A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. So don't fall for their CRAP. Demand their undivided attention and respect. Afterall, they took an oath. If you have the opportunity before being admitted, then check the record of your hospital. Check to see if they have been investigated or sued for providing unnecessary treatment, excessive medical testing, or fraudulent billing. Dozens have already been caught doing so. Do all of the above regardless of your coverage. Don't force your employer to cover the obscene and often fraudulent charges of a corrupt health care industry. By doing so, you make the problem worse. Keep your guard up when watching ANY talk show. These people are not your friends. They are not your advocates. They are paid actors hired to get your attention and your money. Some of them are also executive producers (Oprah Winfrey, Ellen Degeneres, and Dr Phil.). Nearly every word, smile, and stupid joke is rehearsed ahead of time. Including those which take place so often during what appear to be 'technical oversights' (Today Show. Even their stage hands are mixed in behind the scenes so that you can hear them laugh at every stupid joke.). Its all fake. Its all calculated. These people are not trying to make the world a happy place. They are trying to entertain you only because their marketing studies have shown that you are more likely to drop your guard and support their sponsors. Nearly every segment is about marketing some over-priced product or service. They will use any excuse to plug a gadget, fashion item, travel destonation, credit card, university, drug, medical test, surgical procedure, movie, TV show, book, magazine, song, website, ect. Almost all of it over-priced. Almost all of it resulting in higher profits for their sponsors, partners, and parent companies. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Big business is fine on occasion depending on their product, ethics, employment, profit margins, and profit sharing. Do your homework. If they are screwing up our economy or society, then don't pay them for it. If you want to support any legitimate charity, then do so directly. Never support any celebrity foundation. Don't be fooled by the sale of baby photos, lies about percentage of income donated, or praise from other well known public figures. Celebrity foundations are CRAP. They spend most of their funding on PR campaigns, exotic travel, and super high end accomodations for themselves. Thats right. Filthy rich public figures have been jet-setting the world in the name of 'humanity' for years. Riding in personal jets, staying in super-exclusive resorts, and living it up in exotic locations around the world the likes of which most people could never afford even if their lives depended on it. They bring along agents, advisors, publicists, hair, make-up, wardrobe, lighting, and photo crews who are also in it for themselves. They are paid six or seven figures for their part to schedule, manage, document, showcase, praise, and publicize the 'good will' of said public figures and their respective industries. Every possible expense is passed of as 'incidental' or 'necessary' and billed right back to some 'foundation' named after said public figure and/or respective industry. Every possible tax deduction is claimed. Which are incredibly vague and diverse thanks to our sold-out government. Deals are cut with major networks who agree to praise the 'good will' or 'humanitarian' effort of said public figures and plug their latest commercial project around the same time. Others from around the world pick up the story and save these industries billions in advertising every year. Resulting in higher profits and paychecks for the 1% club. When its all said and done more wealth is transfered from poor to rich. NOT the other way around. So don't support any charity named after a living celebrity. Don't be fooled or inspired by any photo you see in a magazine, any clip on TV, any affiliation, or any short term short sighted progress report. Instead, go to Charitywatch.org and look up a top rated charity to support your favorite cause. Its all there. For example: 'Habitat For Humanity' is a top rated charity. They have been for many years. They operate with a low overhead, volunteer workforce, and donated materials. They have built homes for the less fortunate in nearly every city nationwide. Including New Orleans. They do so as we speak. No similar effort can match their progress hour for hour or dollar for dollar. So there is no legitimate reason to support a slower, less efficient effort represented by a filthy rich Hollywood actor who flies in on a personal jet, takes most of the credit, and makes a deal with a major network for plugs just days before the premier of his latest film or DVD release. By doing so, you support not only the inefficient effort, but also the filthy rich actor. Concentrating more wealth and dumbing down our society further in the process. Instead, support 'Habitat For Humanity'. Its not perfect. It is affiliated with some big business. However, it is MUCH more efficient, effective, and less corrupt than 'Make It Right'. The difference is profound. In general, support the little guy as much as possible and the big guy as little as possible. Keep your own greed in check. Don't play the big stakes lottery games, and don't invest only for profit. Don't believe for a second that you can get rich and still manage to keep your soul because you can't. Don't believe for a second that you can concentrate even more of the world's wealth and somehow 'give back' enough to make up for it because you can't. If you do come into a fortune, then give away the bulk of it to a legitimate cause or directly to others who have far less. Do it quickly before that big money turns your heart black. Find the courage and do it. STAY OUT OF THE 1% CLUB. Encourage others to do the same. Their standard is obscene, unjust, illogical, and immoral. There is no excuse for it. Do your part to reverse the transfer of wealth away from the rich and back to the middle and lower classes. Otherwise, there will be no economic recovery EVER. Unfortunately, there is no perfect answer. Jobs will be lost either way. Families will go cold and hungry either way. Innocent children will starve and die either way. But we need to support the largest group of workers with the most reasonable profit margins. We need to stand for a more reasonable distribution of income, bottom line wealth, and resources. We need to support LEGITIMATE charities (Check that list at Charitywatch.org). This is our only chance to limit the severity or duration of the comming US/global depression. In the meantime, don’t listen to Bernanke, Paulson, Bartiromo, Orman, Dobbs, Kramer, Pickens, Larson, O'Reiley, Limbaugh, Bruce, Ingraham, or any other public figure with regard to the economy. They are all plenty smart but I swear to you that they will lie right through their rotten teeth. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. These people work for big business. They are sponsored by big business. The ‘experts’ they cite also work for big business. They invest in big business. They are all motivated primarily by their obsessive desire to accumulate even more personal wealth. THEY WILL LIE RIGHT THROUGH THEIR ROTTEN TEETH. So don’t fall for their tricks. Instead, look at the big picture. The economic problems we face have been mounting for well over 20 years. All of them caused or aggrivated by a constant transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Soon, it will cause the worst ever GLOBAL DEPRESSION. Its not brain surgery. For the mostpart, Its simple math. Like I said, you are welcome to copy this entry and run it by any professor of economics or socio-economics. Go ahead and do it. Ask them specifically about the link between the distribution of wealth and economic stability. If thats not good enough, then look up what Albert Einstein had to say about greed, excess, extreme wealth, and its horrible economic and cultural concequences. Then call any syndicated talk radio show. Tell the screeners that you would like to discuss the concentration of wealth. Mention the views of Albert Einstein with regard to this issue. Your call will be refused. FLAT OUT REFUSED. The vast majority screen their calls and won't allow this topic. Try any local talk radio show. You will face massive opposition there as well but at least they will take your call. Be prepared. These people are very good debators. The vast majority are die-hard capitalists. If they take offense, they may insult you, talk over you, try to re-define your own statements, or call you a 'socialist', 'marxist', or 'communist'. They often use these words to refer to anyone who points out the flaws of unbridled capitalism. They may follow with the old "socialism/marxism doesn't work" line. Maybe, they should take a closer look at whats happening in the world and see that unbridled capitalism doesn't work either. The heavy concentration of wealth is it's fatal flaw. We need a compromise. A relatively free market system with a minimum wage, a maximum wage, a progressive tax policy, and caps on personal wealth. Any little step in that direction would be a start. If you get the opportunity, then confront any politician or public figure in any forum. Ask them to confirm or deny the concentration of wealth and the relation if any to economic stability. Watch them squirm. They will not give you a straight answer because most public figures are filthy rich. They simply will not acknowledge the ugly truth. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Its already underway. A massive campaign to divert our attention. Trump, Buffet, O'Reiley, Dobbs, Winfrey, Pickens, Larson, Norris, Branson, Bohannon, Limbaugh, Coulter, Clinton, Hannity, Ingraham, Bruce, Bloomberg, Doyle, and several other well known filthy rich public figures have been running their mouths about the economy. Finally admitting a hint of severity after years of denial. They even have the nerve to FINALLY acknowledge the possibility of a US/global depression. Still, they refuse to acknowledge the single greatest underlying cause. GREED. Instead, they focus on policies, procedures, and circumstances that were born FROM the underlying cause. GREED. They ramble on about 'subprime', 'toxic debt', 'junk bonds', and 'risky investments'. As if somehow all of this could have been avoided if those transactions had never taken place to begin with. What a joke. Those factors don't represent the underlying cause of this global economic crisis. They represent the effect of a shrinking middle class and massive consumer debt. CAUSED BY GREED. A MASSIVE TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM POOR TO RICH. Otherwise, there wouldn't have been such a market for subprime to begin with. The debt wouldn't have been 'toxic'. The bonds wouldn't have been 'junk'. The investments wouldn't have been so 'risky'. By focusing on such factors, they attempt to divert our attention, limit our hindsight, disregard the OBSCENE concentration of wealth and capital, that shrinking middle class, the high cost of living, and the particular form of evil responsible for almost all of it. GREED. Dancing their way around the big picture. DON'T FALL FOR IT. Remember: Our national debt was way up BEFORE subprime. Consumer debt was way up BEFORE subprime. The cost of living was up BEFORE subprime. Wall Street profits were obscene BEFORE subprime. The middle class were loosing free and clear assets BEFORE subprime. Our infrastructure was in bad shape BEFORE subprime. Loans from China were taken out BEFORE subprime. The dollar was loosing value BEFORE subprime. All of this took place over a period of many years under both Republican and Democratic rule. All of it coincided with a transfer of wealth from poor to rich. So don’t let these cowardly, hypocritical, sold-out, partisan, filthy rich public figures divert your attention or limit your range of thought. THE CURRENT GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS WAS NOT CAUSED BY A SINGLE POLICY, PROCEDURE, POLITICAL PARTY, OR ADMINISTRATION. IT WAS CAUSED PRIMARILY BY A MASSIVE TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM POOR TO RICH. THIS ALSO REPRESENTS A MASSIVE CONCENTRATION OF CAPITAL WORLDWIDE. OTHERWISE, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUCH A MARKET FOR SUBPRIME AND THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A GLOBAL CREDIT CRUNCH. MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES AND IT DOES NOT JUST FLOAT AWAY. IT ONLY TRANSFERS FROM ONE PARTY TO ANOTHER. ALBERT EINSTEIN TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.


A word for those who respond with the usual ‘I know more than you. I spell better than you. I talk like an economist. Look how smart, knowledgable, and articulate I am’ crap. Let me say this in advance. I don’t claim to be an expert in this field. I never will be. I'm still learning and I don't claim to be infallible. But I did go on record with these predictions long before any public figure uttered the word ‘recession’. I've done so 'on the air' and 'online'. Millions of you already know my voice from various local talk radio shows in several states and one syndicated. My first call was in September of '05'. I tried to explain that we will never have world peace without world prosperity and that we will never have world prosperity without a 'fair and reasonable pay-scale'. I also tried to explain the link between 'extreme wealth' and 'extreme poverty'. My call was immediately followed by attacks from so called 'patriots' who felt that my cause must have been to promote 'socialism' or 'bring down America'. Not warn her citizens. You may also remember me from various chat rooms criticizing the 1% club and Hollywood humanitarians in particular. If you search long enough, you will find my early postings online from ‘05' and ‘06'. At first, they were written specifically to fit within a few hundred characters. Including the first draft of this rant. It started with one short paragraph predicting a 'total collapse of the US economy'. Others included phrases like 'game of Monopoly', 'recession is inevitable', 'global recession', 'greed kills', and 'the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time'. Some of which were eventually included here. From day 1, I have tried to explain the link between extreme wealth, poverty, and economic instability. My internet account was eventually cancelled for posting 'spam' in response to articles about the economy. In December of '06', I predicted market instability by spring of the following year. I did so 'on the air'. In January of '07', I called another morning talk radio show and spoke with a guest host who was filling in for a well known public figure. Again, I specifically predicted growing market instability, the current US recession, and the subsequent US/global depression.Which by the way, will be the worst of all time by far. In February of '07', Allen Greenspan acknowledged a 'one in three' chance of a US recession. I immediately called another talk radio show and guranteed AGAIN that it was iminent. I criticized Greenspan and tried to explain that it was not about 'odds' but instead a very simple equation with regard to distribution of income and wealth. I also gave credit to Albert Einstein who went on record with similar views in 1949. As far as I know, he was the first to do so. By late spring of '07', the market was rattled and the economic 'stimulus' in the works. Which turned out to be around $160,000,000,000. THATS ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY BILLION DOLLARS. Well over 1% of our GDP. Deemed appropriate at the time by our leaders. In fact, Bush went on record with a claim that it was based on a mathematical formula and proven strategy. They said it would work. I immediately predicted that it would have little or no effect. By summer of '07' the stock market was more unstable. The housing market in decline. Again, I predicted that it would get MUCH worse. In September of '07', I predicted that our government would have no choice but to acknowledge a US recession by October of '08'. I also assured the audiance that our economy would "go down in a ball of flames" because of greed and that no recovery would EVER take place without a more reasonable distribution of wealth and resources. I have made these predictions 'on air' and 'online' literally hundreds of times. The first call was in September of '05'. Made to a well known public figure with a large audiance. The first blog post a month or so later. Prior to that, I had never even seen one. In fact, my very first post to a blog was written specifically to warn my fellow citizens about the comming US/global depression. Which I was already convinced at the time would be SEVERE within a decade. That was in October of '05'. At the time, there were literally only a few of us worldwide posting any such prediction online. I'm talking maybe a dozen searchable links. This particular rant began with one short paragraph in '06'. Like the others, it was originally intended to fit within a few hundred characters. At the time, I was unaware of any blogs which allowed for longer entries to be posted anonymously. This paragraph was first written in early-mid '08'. Its been updated several times. There has also been a running debate on iVillage.com which began in October of '07' (don't click on their ads). In February or March of '08', I refered specifically to the bank failures of the Great Depression and predicted that it was about to happen again. At the time, I was one of only a few bloggers worldwide to go on record with any such prediction. This was still several weeks to months before Greenspan, Paulson, Bartiromo, Orman, Kramer, O'Reiley, Larson, Bohannon, Dobbs, Celeste or any other well known public figure had acknowledged even a hint of severity. It was also several weeks before Fanny May and Freddie Mac made the news. I also predicted in March that our markets would end the year much lower than they began. Which was still contrary to what we were being told by any public figure. I was allowed to post but when my predictions came true, the site operators went back all the way to October of '07' and deleted nearly every one of my previous entries (they missed a few.). Their motive was obvious. They wanted to 'erase' my credibility. IVillage.com is directly affiliated with NBC, GE, Universal Studeos, Countrywide, CityBank, Capital One, Oprah Winfrey, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Ellen Degeneres, Dr Phil, and others who I persecute by name. All of which depend on the constant dumbing down of society. All of whom are partially responsible for the current economic crisis. None of which or whom have the GUTS to acknowledge the single greatest underlying cause. GREED. In fact, those who epitomoze it (all of the above) want my big mouth SHUT. For 3 solid years, I have been ripping on the 1% club for their incredible greed and hypocrisy. From day 1, my call has been for a more reasonable distribution of income, wealth, and resources. My warning that without it, we would face the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time. Since then, I’ve gone on record against people like Greenspan, Bernanke, Paulson, Laffer, O'Reiley, Bartiromo, Orman, Kramer, Larson, and Dobbs. So far, my predictions have been accurate. The public figures DEAD WRONG. Afterall, not one of them acknowledged even a hint of severity in '05', '06', or '07'. When they FINALLY did this year, they all said something to the effect of "None of us saw this comming.". LIARS. There were a few of us typing our fingers to the bone trying to warn people. There were a few of us calling talk radio shows almost daily trying to warn people. I was one of them. Again, I don't claim to be an expert in this field. But I do understand simple equations, basic economics, and cultural trends. I also realize that mainstream views are DEAD WRONG and based on LIES told by filthy rich public figures who will say whatever it takes to serve their own interests. GREED. Afterall, what kind of incredible MORON could even glance at the numbers and somehow think the equation could work? What kind of incredible MORON could possibly hope to sustain an economy based on a constant transfer of wealth from poor to rich? What the hell did they expect to happen when the middle class finally ran low on money to spend on over-priced crap like everything that I mentioned in that first long paragraph? What the hell were they thinking of? I'll tell you what. RICHES. FILTHY STINKING RICHES. Thats what. Now, they are spinning themselves dizzy trying to divert our attention. Mark my words: They will never acknowledge the obscene concentration of wealth or the negative effect had on economic stability. They will never acknowledge the downside of their own incredible greed. They will all come up with one campaign or strategy after another to blame the other guy, the other administration, the other politician, the other party, the other policy, the other industry, the other country, ect. Whatever it takes to dumb down our society. They will NEVER have the GUTS to acknowledge the single greatest underlying cause for this global economic crisis. GREED. They won't even have the guts to acknowledge the views or predictions of Albert Einstein made way back in 1949. THOSE PARTICULAR VIEWS AND PREDICTIONS. Instead, they will produce their own big money/big business/big celebrity 'experts' who have the same motive to lie right through their rotten teeth. GREED. Its not their knowledge I question. Its their character. GREED. Like I said. This is not brain surgery. For the mostpart, its simple math. When you concentrate the world’s wealth, you also concentrate its capital, and shrink the middle class along with the potential market for every major industry. Homes go unsold. Bills go unpaid. Jobs are lost. Banks fail. More products go unsold. More jobs are lost. More banks fail. and so on. and so on. and so on. It happened 80 years ago in that order beginning with a concentration of wealth. It will happen again. This time on a catastrophic global scale. Throughout the cycle, the rich will panic and tighten their grip. Concentrating the world’s wealth and resources even further, getting richer in the process, and ensuring the collapse of every major economy worldwide. Think it can’t happen? Think again. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Another thing. I don’t want credit for any of this. Otherwise, I would have given my full name a long time ago. I havn't. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'm not selling a book and I'm not looking for any notoriety. At least not yet. I do have a plan to go public when my parents die. In fact, I have BIG plans for my inheritence. Every single penny of it. In the meantime, I don't want them to know about it. I also don't want them punished for my big mouth. Which is why I've gone out of my way to remain anonymous for 3 solid years. When I do go public, it won't be for profit and it won't be for popularity. It will be for a legitimate cause and NOTHING ELSE. In fact, I hope to be just one of many. A face in the crowd. In the meantime, I don't care who gets to say "I told you so." IT DOESN'T MATTER. As far as I’m concerned, you can put this entire rant in your own words and take credit for all of it. I don’t care. Just spread the word. Otherwise, the greatest injustice of all time will go down in history unchecked.

By the way. The bailout won’t work. IT WON’T WORK. The plan fails to address the fundamental problem. The middle class don’t need more credit. They need a reasonable share of the economic pie. They also need a lower cost of living and a chance to catch their breath. They need a break from all of the psychological marketing tricks and mass market BS. Most of all, they need to wake up, see the truth, and take a stand. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

10.01.08
To my surprise, two public figures have found the courage to acknowledge this problem to some degree. On 11.07.07 former presidential candidate Ron Paul mentioned the massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich. He also hinted at the possibility of economic collapse. He did so on 'Face the Nation'. He was blacklisted almost immediately for doing so. On 9.28.08 former secretary of labor Robert Reich refered to the obscene levels of income inequality as part of a "recipe for disaster". He mentioned the richest one percent in particular. He did so on 'Late Night With Conan O'Brien'. As far as I know, Albert Einstein was the first to explain the link between extreme wealth and economic instability. He did so in 1949. He explained how the first Great Depression was actually caused by a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich. He predicted that it would happen again. He also predicted much greater levels of economic instability proportional to much greater levels of income and wealth inequality. He was right. Amazing. The prosperity of an entire world is about to be compromised. Almost entirely because of greed. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated around 40% of all United States wealth. The upper class held around 30%. The middle and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed. Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, the lions share of United States wealth was gradually transfered back to the middle class. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. At the time, the richest 1% reaped about 10% of all private income and held about 20% of all United States wealth. Far less than previous levels. The middle class had home equity, free and clear assets, and money in the bank. Most American households were secure with a single full time provider. Most retirees could enjoy their lives, live in their own homes, afford basic health care, and not have to worry about going bankrupt. THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. The tide began to change in 1976. Jimmy Carter was blamed for a recession that was actually caused by a number of global circumstances including greed. Then a short sighted little pig by the name of Arthur Laffer came along. Known for his famous 'Laffer Curve'. A simple and short sighted equation whipped up to increase tax revenues and profit margins without the slightest regard for ANYTHING ELSE. He convinced Ronald Reagan to campaign on and grant massive tax breaks to the rich and their respective industries. His half-baked theory was that by doing so, unprecidented levels of economic growth and revenue could be achieved. He was right. Unfortunately, he failed to see or acknowledge the big picture. He failed to understand or admit what should have been incredibly obvious after the first Great Depression. That 'economic growth' and 'actual prosperity' are two very different things. Jobs don't necessarily 'create' wealth. In fact, they almost never do. For the mostpart, they only transfer it from one party to another. The devil is in the details. Reaganomics, gave the rich and their respective industries the incentive to 'expand' and 'create jobs'. But those products and services were misrepresented, over-priced, and then sold or billed right back to the people. Often, without their knowledge, understanding, or consent. Certainly without a clue about how the economy REALLY works. All of this resulted in higher profits for those at the top and stagnant wages for almost everyone else. The cost of living went up right along with those obscene profit margins. The American people ended up working more hours just to maintain their standard of living. So with Reaganomics, the transfer of wealth from poor to rich was kicked back into high gear. Here we are 27 years later. Trillions in wealth and capital have been concentrated all over again. National and consumer debt are both at an all time high. The middle class are weak, the lower class flat broke, and the cost of basic living higher than ever before. The dollar is weak because too many of them have been hoarded and the government left with no choice but to print billions more backed up by loans from China. Its another perfect storm. THE BIG ONE. The largest economy in the world is about to go down in a ball of flames. Ground zero of a global economic crisis. CAUSED ALMOST ENTIRELY BY GREED. A MASSIVE TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM POOR TO RICH. As a nation, we don't even see it because our entire culture has been defined by Washington, Wall Street, Hollywood, Pro-sports, and commercial health care. We have been lied to and led around like puppies by those with the worst possible motive. GREED. THEY WANT OUR MONEY. For the mostpart, we just bend over and let them take it. We have become their perfect little victims once again. A nation of consumer junkie, credit card, couch potatoe, drug and doctor morons. We spend most of our spare time on that couch getting brainwashed by greedy public figures who will say or do whatever it takes to get our money. Even worse, those public figures have re-defined any logical standard we ever had for 'good will'. Mother Teresa is dead. America's favorite 'humanitarian' is now a filthy rich multi-media pig who reaped a billion dollar fortune from the middle class by making damn sure they stay on that couch long enough to watch her show and read her magazine. Transforming them into pathetic, naive, love-sick fools who turn around and buy any product or service given away to a cheering studeo audiance or endorsed by their idol. The same goes for Ellen Degeneres, Dr Phil, Regis and Kelly, Rachael Ray, The View, and their respective demographics. Which by the way, are almost identical. Primarily, middle class housewives, retirees, and welfare mothers. Who have been shown through marketing research to spend most of their money and food stamps on over-priced CRAP advertised on TV or a TV show website (ivillage.com). Especially if that over-priced crap is endorsed by a 'hero' or 'humanitarian'. They are easy targets. Not like the rest of us are much less gullible. We're not. In fact, every filthy rich well known public figure and every major industry have followed suit with a similar marketing strategy. Dumbing down our society and cashing in on bogus promises to make the world a better place. They do it because they know it works. They also know that we are too stupid, short sighted, naive, smitten, and love-sick to take a closer look at the world and see that they are wolves in sheep's clothing. To see that what they are doing is FALSE. For example: In the fall of '01', Jennifer Lopez was invited to take part in a music video for charity. The effort was hailed as a benefit for victims of AIDS and 9/11. Well, Jennifer Lopez doesn't do ANYTHING for free. She DEMANDED AND RECIEVED the following for her exclusive use: A 45 foot trailer with a TV, VCR, stereo, an assortment of CDs, a white dressing room with lavish all white decor, all white furniture, and an assortment of exotic fruits and desserts. All of this was necessary just to get her sorry ass in the studeo for 30 minutes. FOR CHARITY. Of course, the organizers are partly to blame for selling out to a 'diva'. In fact, I have my doubts about the entire project. Charity just isn't what it used to be. Most of it has gone commercial. SOLD OUT. Even the UN has become a PR firm for Hollywood and Pro-Sports. Going so far as to allow George Clooney access to the UN headquarters auditorium with his own camera crew. A F$#@$&% CELEBRITY. Of course, that footage was plastered all over the media weeks later right along with plugs for his latest Hollywood blockbuster. Like I said, the UN has become a PR firm. Most of their 'good will ambassadors' are filthy rich, hypocrite pigs who dumb down their ignorant fans, take as much of their money as possible, buy up mass acreage and multiple mansions, flaunt their extravogant lifestyles, jet-set the world, burn through limited life sustaining resources like there is no tomorrow, drive up the cost of living worldwide, and then run their mouths about 'poverty' or some other 'injustice' everytime their latest commercial project hits the market. They do it for publicity. They even have the nerve to run their mouths about 'global warming', 'conservation', and 'green' living. As if the example they set is anything but obscene. As if a roll of eco-friendly toilet paper somehow offsets the clear cutting of a dozen acres to build another F%$#$@# CELEBRITY MANSION. Of course, they have NOTHING to say about greed or economic injustice. NOTHING to say about the obscene concentration of wealth and resources worldwide. NOT A SINGLE F%$#@#$ WORD. What a bunch of false heroes. These people have no real desire to make the world a better place. Their primary goal is to APPEAR as if they do. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. It also gives them a lame excuse to be such greedy, rank, filthy, disgusting, slobbering, squandering, hypocrite pigs. Amazing. EVERY big business, EVERY big celebrity, EVERY billionaire, and damn near every multi-millionaire on the planet have all taken up 'philanthropy' or 'good will'. Those with the most money, also have the most power, and influense by far. They own or influense every government, manage every major industry, and the lion's share of life sustaining resources. They literally rule our world. They always have. Still, every major problem of modern society gets worse by the day. The world's wealth is more concentrated than ever before. Her life sustaining resources are in high demand, more expensive than ever, and squandered by the rich on extravogant living. Meanwhile, families loose their homes, retirees loose their pensions, heroes loose their lives, crime is up, and red ink flows in nearly every community nationwide. The global economy is in a state of crisis. The prosperity of an entire world is about to be compromised. Still, those with the most power, money, influense, and 'good will' promise to make it all better. If only we continue to buy any product or service with their name on it. IT IS A SHAM. GOOD WILL HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS.

The rich and famous do not want to be seen as 'pigs' or go down in history as 'villains'. They want to be seen as 'heros' and go down in history as 'humanitarians'. The market for their product has become global. The fan base has become global. Therefore, the 'humanitarian' effort and 'good will' PR machine has gone global. These 'humanitarian' efforts and 'good deeds' are not chosen to address the greatest need or injustice. They are chosen almost exclusively to appeal to the largest demographic for their respective commercial products. The largest fan base. Efficiency or effect is of little or no concern. Its all about PR, marketing, image, and fame. This is why so many of the rich and famous have taken up 'philanthropy' or 'good will' around the world. This is why so many have 'schools' or 'foundations' in their name. This is why so many play golf or appear on a TV game show for 'charity'. This is why so many sign motorcycles, other merchandise, or auction off their own 'personal effects' for 'charity'. This is why so many have TV shows with a 'charitable' gimmick. This is why so many arrange photo ops with wounded veterans, firefighters, or sick children. This is why so many have adopted children from around the world (Which they always pay others to care for full time. The hired professionals are sworn by legal contract to confidentiality. Not allowed to discuss or appear in public with the children they care for. Those 'photo' and 'interview' opportunities are reserved exclusively for the rich and famous 'adoptive' parents. Often sold for millions.). This is why every 'humanitarian' effort and 'good deed' is plastered all over the media worldwide. Its not about 'humanity' or 'good will'. Its all about marketing, image, fame, and PROFIT. This is why we are so often reminded of their respective 'good deeds' or 'humanitarian' efforts shortly before or after the release of their latest commercial product. IT IS A SHAM. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HUMANITARIAN. GOOD WILL HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS.


The point about our government printing up more money was that it can't be done "on a whim" and that there are serious concequences for doing so (weak dollar, higher gas prices, inflation). I never said that it can't be or hasn't been done at all. Afterall, those loans from China weren't infused in the form of Chinese currency. They were infused in the form of our own. Some spent on legitimate government programs (This has been necessary as existing US currency tends to be hoarded by the rich.). Some diverted behind the scenes (Stolen by the rich.). The rest given to the banks in the form of credit (Run by the rich. Dividends paid to the rich.). Who in Reaganite theory, are expected to make loans and 'grow' the economy. Unfortunately, the 'economic growth' so far, has taken place almost entirely at the high end. Resulting in a net gain for the rich, a net loss for the vast majority, a much greater need for financial aid, and red ink nationwide. The later three of which have been further aggrivated by that weak dollar. So the printing of money can't be done "on a whim" without regard for serious concequences. So far, its done nothing but perpetuate the problem. It never has been and never will be the answer. Not without some policy in place to prevent that newly printed currency from being hoarded by the rich as well (Like higher taxes on the rich and caps on their personal wealth.). Sorry if I wasn't explicit enough the first time. The original draft of this particular rant was written in '06' and intended to fit within 300 characters. I've been updating it weekly for the last year or so. Responding to my Reaganite critics and a constant line of BS from the media. Inserting those updates where they seem most appropriate. This is why I jump so often from one issue to another and back again. Anyway, I'm no English major. I don't think in paragraphs and I find it difficult to write in paragraphs. So if any of you want to re-organize or re-word this post, feel free to do so. Whatever it takes to make people understand.


11/05/08
A new president will be taking office soon. Backed up by a heavily democratic congress who have all campaigned on a promise to raise taxes on the rich. Unfortunately, this will be too little too late. Nowhere near enough to compensate for the incredible corruption of both major parties. Nowhere near enough to pay for the bailout. Nowhere near enough to stop that runaway train. There will be no change for the better. Obama's financial advisers are pigs. Warren Buffet is a pig. Oprah Winfrey is a pig. Obama himself is a multi-millionaire politician married to a multi-millionaire attorney. He has already run the most expensive political campaign in history. Some of it squandered on a $400 lobster feast for his wife. Financed for the mostpart by ordinary people who can't even afford a $400 lobster feast. It happened on Obama's watch. Probably more than once. He even had the nerve to ask those ordinary people to help pay off the campaign debt of another filthy rich multi-millionaire politician PIG (Hilary Clinton). I will admit that Barack Obama seems to have more character than most of his colleagues. Certainly more than Clinton, Gore, McCain, Palin, Bush, Cheney, Romney, Schwarznenager, Palosi, Kerry, Guliani, Kennedy, Bloomberg, or Edwards. He was probably a very good down to earth man at one time. The same goes for Joe Biden. Not anymore. Afterall, John McCain was also a very good down to earth man at one time. A true American hero. NOT ANYMORE. Now, he is a filthy rich politician pig married to a filthy rich big business pig. SOLD OUT. Mark my words: Obama and Biden will do the same. Whatever moral character they may have left, will be lost or heavily compromised while in office. Like the others, their administration will be riddled with scandals of greed and corruption. Like the others, they will succumb to the greatest epidemic ever faced by modern man. By far, the most intoxicating element of modern society. Greed. Simply the desire to get as rich as possible. It has the potential to blacken any heart. Break the will of any human being. Influense any government. Corrupt any society. Those who succumb to it are lost forever. You can not get through to these people. You can not make them understand. No matter how bad it gets for the little guy. No matter how many families loose their homes. No matter how many people go cold and hungry. No matter how many innocent children starve and die. No matter how much blood is shed. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. The rich will ALWAYS blame the other guy. They will ALWAYS say or do whatever it takes to secure their own extreme personal wealth. When they 'give back', its only because they expect more in return. They will NEVER compromise their own bottom line. They will NEVER jeapordize their position in the 1% club. They will NEVER stand for a more reasonable distribution of wealth and resources. They will NEVER acknowledge greed as a form of evil. They will NEVER acknolwedge the potential it has to ruin EVERYTHING. They will NEVER admit the simple truth. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Ford, GM, and Dodge are begging the current admistration for some type of 'bridge loan' in order to avoid bankruptcy. The unions are begging for it. The people are divided. All because of a LIE. Again, we have been mislead. I'm not disputing their need. Its legit. I'm disputing the underlying cause. Competition my ass. China my ass. Japan my ass. Those factors are real but not fatal. They are also concequential. Not primary. Again, its GREED and CORRUPTION. Not only that of the auto executives and celebrities who demand millions to endorse the product (Toby Keith, Tiger Woods) but also within the health care industry. Thats right. Health care. The average doctor is a millionaire several times over. The average health care executive many times over. Both on average, are members of the 1% club. AGAIN, ITS THEIR FAULT. If it weren't for the OBSCENE health care charges, brainwash plots, and artificially inflated market, then the financial burden placed on Ford, GM, and Dodge wouldn't be anywhere near as high. They could easily match the labor of Honda, Toyota, and Hyndai who's workers are younger on average, more liberal, and not so demanding when it comes to 'health care'. In this case, the little guy is partly to blame for their incredible ignorance. They smoke, drink, get fat, fall for the most OBVIOUS health care scams, live by drug and doctor, kiss greedy doctor ass, drive up the cost of their own health care, demand full coverage, and then strike if they don't get it. Retired US auto workers on average are now causing their former employers to incur several hundred thousand dollars PER RETIREE in health care expenses over the span of their retirement. Those in the current workforce are partly to blame as well. Not for greed. Their wages are reasonable. But their health care demands are well in excess. If they would simply open their eyes, acknowledge the incredible greed and corruption within the health care industry, get off the couch, get off the pharmaceuticals, and take care of their own bodies, then their own cost of living would be lower, their health would be better, the market for their product would be higher, and the financial burden placed on Ford, GM, and Dodge would be MUCH lower. I'm not discounting other factors like gas prices, competition, and the US product line. But greed and ignorance wreak havok like no other elements of our society. They cause or allow the cost of living to rise and the middle class to shrink along with the potential market for every major industry. In this case, they also raise the financial burden placed on US auto makers. Mark my words: One or two of the big three US automakers will go bankrupt. They will do so regardless of any 'bridge loan'. Other well known foreign auto makers will follow. The entire manufacturing industry will become a shell of its former self. Millions of retirees will be cut off entirely. ALL BECAUSE OF GREED, CORRUPTION, AND IGNORANCE. The ripple effect is profound. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

12/16/08
The feds have now reduced their interest rate to an all time low. IT WON'T WORK. The same goes for any potential bailout for the US auto industry, or any other. IT WON'T WORK. IT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY WILL NOT WORK. I would bet my life on it a hundred times over. Again, our own leaders refuse to acknowledge the single greatest drag on our economy. The single greatest underlying cause for the global economic crisis. GREED. They all refuse to acknowledge the downside. Laffer, Greenspan, Bernanke, and Paulson refuse to acknowledge it. Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Gore, Palosi, Kerry, Obama, Bloomburg, Edwards, and Kennedy refuse to acknowledge it. Lars Larson, Mike Gallagher, Tammy Bruce, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Bill O'Reiley, Mike Savage, Maria Bartiromo, Suze Orman, Barbara Corcoran, Jean Chatzky, Carmen Wong, Jim Kramer, Rush Limbaugh, and Jim Bohannon refuse to acknowledge it. Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Richard Branson, Jack Welsh, and T-Boone Pickens refuse to acknowledge it. The same goes for all of their billionaire friends. All of the above are filthy rich hypocrite pigs who don't have the guts to admit the simple truth. This is not brain surgery. For the mostpart, its simple math. WE ARE IN THIS MESS BECAUSE OF GREED. The world's richest one percent are now so incredibly rich that there simply isn't enough wealth circulating beneath them to sustain the global economy. Its finally on the brink of collapse. IT WILL COLLAPSE. We are now entering what will go down in history as the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time by far. You think its bad now? YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET. NOTHING. Trillions more in wealth and capital will be concentrated (Not lost. Concentrated.). Many more banks large and small will fail. Tens of millions will loose their savings (Transfered from poor to rich.). Even some FDIC accounts will be forfeited (Yes they will. Yes they will. Yes they will.). Every major industry will become a shell of its former self. Unemployment will reach unprecidented levels. Millions of retirees will be cut off entirely. The lower class will expand further and become dominant. The financial aid system will fail miserably. The vast majority of those in need will have little or no access. Crime, poverty, and suicide will skyrocket. There will be riots and random acts of violence at banks, hospitals, and government buildings. The next generation will be left to fight in the crumbling streets over a shattered American dream. The rest of the world will have it even worse. So don't blame innocent people from other countries you idiots. Blame the rich. Blame the government. Blame the health care industry. Then blame yourselves for being so incredibly stupid for so many years. We have become perfect little consumer junkie, credit card, drug and doctor morons. We have fallen for every psychological marketing trick in the book. We have spent our money away without the slightest regard for where it goes, how it circulates, or how it accumulates. We have allowed a particular form of evil to grow out of control, intoxicate our society, consume our government, wreak havok on our own economy and culture, RUIN any chance we ever had at world prosperity, and jeapordize the very foundation of modern society. At the same time, we have allowed those who epitomize it to get away with calling themselves 'heroes' or 'humanitarians'. Putting a happy face on greed and dumbing down our society further in the process. THAT MEANS YOU. THE VAST MAJORITY. So wake up fellow citizens. Grow a spine. Don't fall for all of this 'good will' 'humanitarian' BS from the rich. IT IS A SHAM. NOTHING BUT TAX DEDUCTIBLE PR CRAP. Instead, look at the bottom line. IT'S F#@&#%$ OBSCENE. NOW GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS YOU IDIOTS. WE ARE IN THIS MESS BECAUSE OF GREED. AMERICA'S RICHEST ONE PERCENT NOW OWN ALMOST 1/2 OF ALL UNITED STATES WEALTH. THE WORLD'S RICHEST ONE PERCENT NOW OWN OVER 40% OF ALL WORLD WEALTH. THATS WAY TOO MUCH. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT HEROES. THEY ARE NOT HUMANITARIANS. THEY ARE DISGUSTING HYPOCRITE SLOBS. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH THEY GIVE BACK. THEY STILL KEEP WAY TOO MUCH. IT CAN'T WORK THIS WAY. IT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY CAN NOT WORK THIS WAY. IT NEVER HAS AND IT NEVER WILL. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

1% CLUB PIGS: I've said it many times and I will say it many more. Greed is not the desire to break the law or intentionally oppress another human being. Greed is simply the desire to take more than your reasonable share of wealth or any limited resource. By doing so, you reduce the value of currency and raise the cost of living worldwide. You shrink the middle class and the potential market for every major industry. You expand the lower class and the need for financial aid. You cause a domino-effect of socio-economic problems. You literally cause innocent people to suffer and die. YOU MAKE WORLD PROSPERITY MATHEMATICALLY AND PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It does not matter how much you 'give back'. It matters how much you KEEP. This is why I will go to my grave with nothing but bleeding and burning hatred for all of you. Thats right. I hate you and I'm not afraid to admit it. Afterall, its OK to hate a rapist. Its OK to hate a terrorist. I do. But I also hate wolves in sheep's clothing. THAT MEANS YOU. In fact, I consider the equation you stand for to be the greatest injustice of all time. It makes my f$#@&$# blood boil. Jealosy my ass. Low self-esteem my ass. Self-pity my ass. Anyone who still thinks that after reading all of this is a F&#@%$# MORON. You disgusting hypocrite pigs. I've noticed the little shots you've been taking at me, a few others, and the cause we stand for. The psychological stunts. Thats right Will Smith, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Today Show pigs, Regis and Kelly, Ellen DeGeneres, Dr Phil, Oprah Winfrey, Elizabeth Hasslebeck, Melissa Scott, Joyce Meyer, Lars Larson, Bill O'Reiley, Lou Dobbs, Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jerry Doyle. I've noticed the crafty elusive statements you've been making about greed and subtle insults directed at those very few of us who stand against it. I also know that you're well aware of this campaign and that you're trying to shut it down. Of course, trying to do so in a manner that won't draw anymore attention to it. You've even gone out of your way to specifically attack 'anonymous' bloggers in general. As if we are somehow less credible without a registered account. I'm not the slightest bit intimidated by any of it. YOUR TRICKS WILL NEVER WORK ON ME. Mark my words: No matter what you say or do, I will spend the rest of my life persecuting all of you for the disgusting, obscene, unjust, illogical, and immoral equation you stand for. I won't break any laws. I won't harm one hair on your rotten heads. Its not that I don't wish you were gone. I do. But I would never jeapordize such an important cause with a criminal act. NEVER. My only realistic goal is to make as many people as possible understand. Including future generations. I hope they look back on these words and spit on your graves. Afterall, they won't achieve any degree of world peace or prosperity until after they acknowledge GREED as a form of EVIL. Not until they acknowledge it with a number or some type of material standard. In the unlikely event they ever do, I hope they FINALLY come up with a system that works for the vast majority. One with a reasonable pay scale and caps on personal wealth. Otherwise, their system will fail over and over again. Just like the one you stand for. It can't work this way. It never has and it never will. NEVER. NO WAY IN HELL. So mark my words: I will not make excuses for a single one of you. I don't care how smart you think you are. I don't care how talented you think you are. I don't care how pretty you think you are. I don't care how noble you think you are. I don't care what you think you've done to earn up to fifty thousand times the pay of a firefighter, soldier, farmer, teacher, cop, aid worker, cook, paramedic, truck driver, or garbageman. You're not worth it. I don't even care if your personal fortune fell out of the sky. If you're rich, I hate you. I don't care how much you 'give back'. I care how much you keep. Therefore, I will do everything within my power and within the law to expose your incredible greed and hypocrisy. If you want to break my will, then you're going to have to break my neck first. and if you pull a stunt like that, then a lot of people will know what happened to me and why. I've planned in detail for it. Most of you have no idea. Regardless, you pigs will not go down in history as 'heroes' or 'humanitarians'. Not if I can help it. We're in this mess primarily because of you. Its going to get MUCH worse primarily because of you. Thats what I believe and thats the message I intend to spread for the rest of my life. DEAL WITH IT.

1.21.09
A few more words about our new president and how certain public figures are using him to divert our attention, dumb down our society, shut my big mouth, and discredit the cause I stand for. I said it during the presidential campaign, I said it again in November, and I will say it again now. Our new president has more character than most of his colleagues. Much more. In fact, he puts Bush, Cheney, Rice, Clinton, Gore, Palosi, Reagan, Carter, Romney, Schwarzenegger, Bloomberg, Kerry, Edwards, and Kennedy to shame. He also puts nearly every living public figure to shame. Including those who claim to support him. By politician, public figure, and 1% club standards, he is an angel. That being said, he is still a politician. Still a public figure. Still a member of the one percent club. Just a man. Like any other, he is a product not only of genetics but also of his environment. Like any other, he is intoxicated by certain elements of modern society. Including three of the worst. Fame, fortune, and power. All three have the potential to corrupt the mind, the heart, and the will of any human being. I can name only one who resisted the influense of all three. Mother Teresa died in 1998. The amazing standard she set died with her. Since then, an army of public figures and false heroes have sold out the very concept of 'good will'. Capitalizing on bogus promises to make the world a better place. The vast majority, on day one. The rest, along the way. Obama will do the same. Its just pathetic human nature. Put any man or woman on a stage or throne and something about them is different. Make any man or woman rich and something about them is different. I said it in November and I will say it again. Barack Obama was probably a very good down to earth man at one time. That was before the corrupt influense of fame, fortune, and power. Now, something about him is different. The same goes for Michelle Obama. They have already begun to sell out. Not only as necessary during the campaign because of our ignorant society and the fact that we won't elect ANYONE unless they look a certain way, dress a certain way, talk a certain way, kiss our babies, cut our taxes, tell us what we want to hear no matter how unrealistic, believe in God, follow a certain religion, support a certain industry, and show up on our favorite talk show with a fake smile, stupid jokes, and lame dance moves. That was bad enough. A sell-out necessary to get elected by a pathetic, ignorant, naive, short sighted, half-wit, couch potatoe, love-sick, celebrity junkie society. But also for profit before, during, and after the election. I already mentioned the $400 lunchtime lobster feast. Paid for mostly by ordinary people who were willing to cut into their modest bottom lines in order to help get their hero elected. SHE ATE IT. That was bad enough. Another sign of the times. As expected, its already getting worse. I have no problem with the armor plated presidential limo, the extra security, the inauguration, or the speech. I have no problem with the concept of a public celebration. But I do have a problem with the $35,000 ring, the $150,000 dress, the exotic crystal, the exotic food, the coorporate plugs, NBC, MTV, BET, Beyonce, LL Cool J, Miley Cyrus, and every other filthy rich big business/big money/big celebrity hypocrite pig who had the nerve to fly in on their personal jets, stand there lavished in gold, and jewels, and fur, and $10,000 suits and pretend as if they and Obama share a desire to make the country and our world a better, more stable, more peaceful, and more 'just' place for all its people. Once again, promoting their own commercial interests, dumbing down our society, and dancing their way around the single greatest underlying cause for the global economic crisis. GREED. The single greatest threat to modern society. GREED. Filthy, rotten, disgusting, self-centered, self-serving, black-hearted, hypocritical GREED. By doing so, they divert our attention AGAIN at a crucial time when we need more than ever to finally acknowledge GREED as a form of EVIL. At a crucial time when we need more than ever to finally understand how it burns through moral character, spreads like wildfire, jumps from one industry to another, one person to another, and wreaks havok on society worldwide. IT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF A DOUBT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL. All of this happened on Obama's watch. I understand that he didn't plan most of the details. But he did know about many. He stood by and watched that event sell out to the highest bidder. He also bought the ring. He didn't even have a word to say about the double standards or many ethical contradictions. Afterall, he got elected. It was no longer necessary to kiss so much big business, big money, big celebrity, 1% club ass. SELL-OUT. Now, that army of filthy-rich, self-centered, self-serving, self-promoting, hypocrite pigs are using Obama's hopefull words against those very few of us who know better. They even have the nerve to belittle and villianize people like me simply because we don't float around with happy uplifting thoughts and smile on our face. They pretend as if our message can't possibly be legitimate if its expressed with anger, contempt, hatred, or fear. As if a 'positive' attitude is any match for that domino-effect of socio-economic problems caused almost entirely by GREED. I understand that Obama could never go on record with views anything like mine. He has no choice but to be tolerant of other filthy-rich and powerful public figures. I can even forgive the affiliation to some extent. I also believe that he truly does want some degree of government reform, ethics, accountability, peace, prosperity, stability, opportunity, and economic justice for all people. Like I said, by politician standards he is an angel. Which is probably the nicest thing I will ever say or even think about a rich and powerful public figure. I find it near impossible to hate the man. He is literally the only rich and powerful public figure on this planet that I don't hate. I also understand why he gave the uplifting speech. I really don't blame him for a single word of it. But I will not pretend as if a smile or 'positive' attitude is any match for that particular form of evil consuming our world. I will not choose 'hope' over 'fear' just because it feels nice. Of course, I want things to get better. Of course, I will try in vain to help make things better. Of course, I want something legitimate to celebrate. Something that we could all be a part of. Of course, I desperately want Obama to succeed. Of course, I desperately want all of my predictions to be proven wrong. I just don't see it happening. With or without Obama, we are still stuck on that runaway train. Its not going to be any better. Its not going to be alright. Not for the vast majority. Its going to get much worse and stay that way for a very long time. I fully expect to die knowing that I devoted myself to a cause which was lost from day one. Greed will always triumph over good will. The people will never take any real stand against it. The vast majority are pathetic, ignorant, naive, short sighted, brainwashed, pharmameutical, medical-testing, couch potatoe, credit card, love-sick, celebrity junkie, powderpuffs. Perfect little victims. I hate to say that about my fellow citizens but its the truth. Afterall, they didn't see this comming. I tried to warn them and they still didn't see it. Others tried to warn them and they didn't see it. Albert Einstein tried to warn them SIXTY F$#&#$# YEARS AGO. They didn't listen. They didn't see it. They did NOTHING to stop this or even slow it down. Even now, when the problem is so much more obvious. Even now, when the futures of their children are at stake. Still, they do NOTHING. Sometimes, I wonder if they are even worth fighting for. What the hell is the point? They will never listen. They will never wake up. They will never do simple math. They will never take a stand. There will never be economic justice. There will never be a more reasonable distribution of wealth and resources. Therefore, there will never be any degree of world peace or prosperity. Its only going to get worse. A LOT WORSE. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.


The new stimulus won't work. The new bailouts won't work. The new money won't work. The new budget won't work. There may be a shallow revival later this year or next but it won't sustain itself beyond 2010. No way. It absolutely positively will not work. Obama's efforts are revolutionary but they are too little too late. The opposition too strong. Which by the way, is not about national debt. Thats a lie. Nobody cares. Its about inflation. The rich are throwing a fit over government spending because when more money is printed, their money looses some value. They have some damn nerve. They already have too much money. Leaving the majority with too little. They won't give it up. They won't tolerate higher taxes. The equation they stand for absolutely can not work. Still, they have the nerve to throw a fit over government spending unless its their own budget with their own pork, their own diversion of funds, their own tax breaks, and their own kick backs. Hundreds of billions worth. In which case, they are all for it. Afterall, inflation is fine with all of them as long as they end up with a net gain in buying power. Otherwise, they throw a bloody fit. This is why Democrats and Republicans always fight tooth and nail over government spending. Its not about 'patriotism'. Its not about 'fiscal responsibility'. Its not about the 'middle class'. Its not about the 'next generation'. Its about their own incredible greed. Of course the majority were better off under Clinton. They were also better off under Reagan. Even with a lower GDP, they will still better off. Only because that massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich was still in the early to mid stages. It began in the late seventies. It was accelerated under Reagan and again under Bush. Now, we have finally reached a tipping point. The majority can no longer afford to pay all of their bills and sustain their share of the economy. In fact, they are in debt to the tune of almost $2,000,000,000,000. THATS ALMOST TWO TRILLION DOLLARS. Obama's efforts are about re-distributing some wealth. He is one of the very few politicians to care about the majority almost as much as his own bottom line. Which is about the best we can hope for from any politician. Unfortunately, the rich won't give up anything. Even those who claim to support him won't give it up under any circumstances. This leaves Obama with no choice but to print trillions in US currency, water down all existing US wealth, raise taxes slightly on the rich, and tweak the budget slightly in favor of the majority. Hopefully, resulting in a gradual transfer of wealth from rich back to poor. Its a revolutionary effort. Very noble. Unfortunately, it won't be enough to stop that runaway train. The rich are too greedy. The opposition too strong. The government too corrupt. Obama himself will sell out before its all said and done. Mark my words he will sell out to the rich. That vital transfer of wealth from rich back to poor will not take place. Therefore, Obama will have no choice but to acknowledge a severe US depression by the end of his first term or shortly thereafter. There will be no economic recovery without a more reasonable distribution of bottom line wealth. The richest one percent must be willing to settle for less. A lot less. Otherwise, there will be no economic recovery ever. Not one of us will live to see it.

3.04.09
We are being fed a constant line of BS from the media about 'lost' market wealth. Similar to the line of BS we have been fed for years about wealth 'creation'. NBC and their panel of paid 'experts' (liars) recently took a question from a viewer (it may have been staged) about market 'losses' and 'gains'. Their answer was downright vague and misleading as usual. Stock values don't simply represent our collective 'productivity' or 'hard work'. Otherwise, Ford, GM, and Dodge would be doing fine. Afterall, the cars got built. If their answer had been true, then we could all just work a little harder, produce a little more, buy a little more, and revive our own economy. We can't. Its not that simple. Their answer was CRAP. Another stunt to make it appear as if we're all in this together. That panel of paid 'experts' (liars), also refered to stock values as 'phantom' wealth. Thats not exactly true either. Otherwise, those shares could never be traded for any actual product or service (They are. They always have been.). They also wouldn't give the majority share holders such authority. So what did NBC and their filthy rich trio of paid 'experts' (liars) leave out? The ugly truth as usual. Corporate stock values are not 'phantom'. They actually represent past profit margins, current profit margins, accounting scams, bailouts, and the potential transfer of more dollars FROM US TO THEM. The only 'phantom' elements involved are the shady speculation and accounting scams. Which do effect those values but they still result in a transfer of dollars from one party to another. Otherwise, those fluctuating values are based on real world events. In the meantime, they are traded like an alternative form of currency. Eventually cashed in for market value. Just like gold and silver. Like any other form of currency, the richest one percent hold the lion's share. They currently own about 1/2 of the entire US market. The upper class own around 1/3. Foreign investors own around 1/8. The lower 90% of us own the scraps leftover. This equation has contributed to a constant transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Its been accelerating for decades along with obscene, record setting profit margins for big business. These record setting profit margins were mathematically impossible to sustain with a shrinking middle class. The housing and stock markets were impossible to stabilize long term. They were on a crash course with or without subprime. Which is why in part, the rampant speculation and accounting scams took place. Also why the 'mark to market' rule was changed. Which basically allowed traders to take their profits and disregard the potential liabilities that inevitably came with a concentration of wealth and capital worldwide. These were all stunts whipped up by the 1% club to artificially inflate and sustain the market at a time when the ver

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