tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post7629437251564429056..comments2024-03-28T10:56:52.861-07:00Comments on CONTRARY BRIN: Buckle your seatbelts... October surprises, cheating, and the things Clinton won't say...David Brinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comBlogger170125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-72161912270602945152016-10-20T18:45:49.028-07:002016-10-20T18:45:49.028-07:00onwardonwardDavid Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-65211909428267067422016-10-20T17:51:22.108-07:002016-10-20T17:51:22.108-07:00Oops, I forgot to paste in the url:
http://www.ny...Oops, I forgot to paste in the url:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/kansas-bomb-plot-arrest-somali.html?_r=0Paul SBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-31857752201361056012016-10-20T17:50:39.435-07:002016-10-20T17:50:39.435-07:00It's looking more and more like Donald Grope i...It's looking more and more like Donald Grope is going down, but did anyone hear about the Garden City, KS plot to blow up a building full of Somalis? They were arrested before they could put their Timmy McVeigh style truck bomb together, fortunately. These people manage to escape one of the most violent nations on Earth (the poster child for what happens when you have weak government) - getting blown up here would have been an irony of the ugliest kind, and a huge shame on a nation that claims to believe in freedom and equality. I'm sure more of these "Sovereign Citizen" sickoes will be planning more like this to inaugurate our first president who doesn't have the decency to have the standard-issue wedding tackle in the pants. If domestic terrorism goes up, will our "liberal media" report it, or will it get lost in all the Muslim panic like it has for a decade and a half.Paul SBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-23575990794900777522016-10-20T16:48:06.063-07:002016-10-20T16:48:06.063-07:00Teflon brains are sad brains.Teflon brains are sad brains.Jumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794110173836133321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-65714019403834544732016-10-20T16:45:40.927-07:002016-10-20T16:45:40.927-07:00Greg byshenk: I liked Ezra Klein's take. Hill...Greg byshenk: I liked Ezra Klein's take. Hillary beat Trump all over the place, but she didn't do it MY way (point out all the flaws in his arguments, blast him away with evidence proving his points are baseless drivel) - she did it her way. Perhaps men are predisposed to think if someone doesn't 'win' the way we want them to, that they didn't 'win enough.' <br /><br />But the parry'n'jab approach did indeed set Trump up, esp. on Debate 1 ("Her name is Alicia Machado - prepare to die!") and Debate 3 (parry, jab, strike, again & again, Trump is angry and off-balance - Wallace: "Trump, do you endorse democracy?" "I'll keep you in suspense."). <br /><br />It's a different style. It's not MY style. But it proved utterly effective.donzelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991849781932619746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-36997137939590234732016-10-20T16:19:41.522-07:002016-10-20T16:19:41.522-07:00Dr. Brin: "Were they rational beings, the con...Dr. Brin: <i>"Were they rational beings, the confeds would calm down, negotiate, and stop abusing, waging war upon all the smart people."</i><br /><br />Not so. The Confeds are dependent on a large, obedient mass that will embrace Lucifer himself when their authority figures tell them to do so. No other explanation accounts for Evangelicals embracing a man who mocks their faith (well, perhaps Trump is Jesus, and has nothing to confess or repent from - but otherwise, he's either liar or a blasphemer - and to the extent any Christian supports him, that Christian renounces their own Bible).<br /><br />How does one get non-slave owners to rise up to defend the rights of slave owners? The slave owners convince them that "outsiders are coming to destroy your way of life! Stand up to them!" So goes the Confederacy.<br /><br /><i>"they might make a reasonable case against the admitted problem of some lefty PC-bully police."</i><br />They might. But Locum's whole "gold & lead warning" is a threat of violence towards those who do not respect [his group]. The meaning in such statements is that "the time of reason is ending - war is coming." Aka insurrection/treason.<br /><br />Speaking of which - <br /><br />Locum: yes, you may protest LAWFULLY, no you may not riot. If you do, you may be shot. Weren't you watching: turns out lefties shoot minorities and victims all the time when they're perceived as a threat. We'll feel bad about it, but won't hesitate. <br /><br />Hence a gentle warning: be careful about threatening "gold & lead" and whatnot. Here or anywhere. This is a "public forum": you cannot know how your words will be used, or who will change the context. You can anticipate that if you, or anyone you know, were to do something like what you're describing, these words can come back and haunt you. Even if you never intended to threaten anything at all.<br /><br />Should that happen, you may not be able to let us know. There will be others who will try to defend your rights, and I'll do my best to explain that you were just venting, and didn't mean it the way someone in a prosecutor's office claims you did. But honestly, you're much better off finishing your book and toning it down a bit. For your sake, and the rest of us too.donzelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991849781932619746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-22925656760683526052016-10-20T16:03:50.733-07:002016-10-20T16:03:50.733-07:00WHiner! You confeds have every advantage. Not ju...WHiner! You confeds have every advantage. Not just white privilege. Your states are gerrymandered out the wazoo, vastly more such cheating than blue America. And the very nature of the States themselves? Gerrymandered from the start, giving 20 free extra Senate seats to Red America. And Nate Silver says that urban America is intrinsically disadvantaged for geometric reasons.<br /><br />Oh, and urban america is the terror target, yet we aren't whimpering about "terrorists!" the way perfectly safe redders are.<br /><br />You got nuthin' son.David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-82189225253440580262016-10-20T15:32:12.101-07:002016-10-20T15:32:12.101-07:00Regarding the billions of cash that disappeared in...Regarding the billions of cash that disappeared in Iraq (mentioned in the previous post)... seems it has been accounted for? <br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/27/lost-iraq-cash-government-finally-accounts-6-billion_n_1052840.htmlAndyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10918881673638295065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-42547898569858314332016-10-20T14:42:43.501-07:002016-10-20T14:42:43.501-07:00swinging at the easy ones:
Smurphs & Larry_H ...swinging at the easy ones:<br /><i><br />Smurphs & Larry_H called us, the much despised & disenfranchised Red State Trumpeteers, <br /></i><br /><br />I didn't use any of those terms, but feel free to identify yourself.<br /><i><br />..."a minority". That means we are now an Oppressed VICTIM Class which is allowed to protest any perceived injustice, riot in the streets, <br /></i><br /><br />You were doing that already when you were an "oppressed" majority. Knock yourself out.<br /><i><br />violate national borders with impunity<br /></i><br /><br />Oh, feel free to leave any time you want.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-85136748403036222862016-10-20T14:12:54.332-07:002016-10-20T14:12:54.332-07:00locumranch:
Stick a fork in Western Democracy, ff...locumranch:<br /><i><br />Stick a fork in Western Democracy, fflolks, because it's over & done when a democratic rule like equal political representation no longer applies equally to everyone, <br /></i><br /><br />It applies to everyone, not just you. That's the problem. Other people get to have their way some times. Not just you. Democracy doesn't only "work" when you get your way. Just because you lose some times doesn't mean it was "rigged".<br /><br /><i><br />especially to those fly-over yokels, land-locked hicks & regressive 'common man' minorities who you can't stand, <br /></i><br /><br />Where do you think I live?<br /><i><br />the only feasible solution to this oppressive Federal Rape Culture being nullification, secession & balkanisation.<br /></i><br /><i><br /><b><br />George Washington:<br />Burr? Shut the door on your way out.<br /></b><br /></i><br />#Rural_Producers_Rule, <br /><i><br /><b><br />Hamilton:<br />"We plant seeds in the south! We create!" Keep ranting.<br />'Cause we know who's really doing the planting.<br /></b><br /></i><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-69377040862613696562016-10-20T13:54:14.176-07:002016-10-20T13:54:14.176-07:00Did you see that?
Smurphs & Larry_H called ...<br />Did you see that? <br /><br />Smurphs & Larry_H called us, the much despised & disenfranchised Red State Trumpeteers, "a minority". That means we are now an Oppressed VICTIM Class which is allowed to protest any perceived injustice, riot in the streets, violate national borders with impunity, ignore the Rule-of-Law, and dispense with all forms of legal documentation & license, all while being eligible for special privileges, scholarships, freebies, benefits, a general amnesty & perhaps even reparations, because DIversity Doctrine commands that privileged Majorities (such as yourselves) self-handicap in order to correct assumed historical Inequality.<br /><br />Stick a fork in Western Democracy, fflolks, because it's over & done when a democratic rule like equal political representation no longer applies equally to everyone, especially to those fly-over yokels, land-locked hicks & regressive 'common man' minorities who you can't stand, the only feasible solution to this oppressive Federal Rape Culture being nullification, secession & balkanisation.<br /><br />#Rural_Producers_Rule, #Red_Power, #Rural_Lives_Matter<br />______<br /><br />Have you noticed the self-contradictory nature of some of David's statements as in (1) "Statistics show a steady rise in US manufacturing", preceded by many posts about the US Economy being 'post-industrial', (2) scientific credentialism being preferred over the Age of the Amateur, and (3) Fossil-fuels being 'bad because climate change', followed by hip hip hooray for a climate changing US fossil-fuel energy surplus ??locumranchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-57390311574544872382016-10-20T13:47:14.422-07:002016-10-20T13:47:14.422-07:00Smurphs:
Since you seem to be identifying with th...Smurphs:<br /><i><br />Since you seem to be identifying with the "dissatisfied...proletarian majority", I think you need to be reminded of something.<br /><br />You are NOT the majority.<br /><br />You are the minority, and getting smaller every day. <br /></i><br /><br />Worth repeating!<br /><br />Confederate types like locumranch think that Democracy is authoritarian and intolerant when they choose to vote in a way he doesn't personally like. It's the same thing as Trump asserting that any outcome other than his own victory is "rigged", or that the only judges who can be impartial in his case is someone already pre-disposed to be a Trump supporter.<br /><br />But then a key to translating loc is to remember that words always mean the opposite of what they mean on our Earth. Pointing out examples of racism is "racist". Opposing bullies is "bullying" them. Tolerance of people's differences is "intolerance" of the intolerant. See how that works?<br /><br /> LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-46822526833729948762016-10-20T13:38:30.710-07:002016-10-20T13:38:30.710-07:00Dr Brin:
PROVE IT, traitor. Coward. Whining loser...Dr Brin:<br /><i><br />PROVE IT, traitor. Coward. Whining loser. Prove one damn thing.<br /></i><br /><br />"Hamilton":<br /><i><br /><b>Hamilton: <br />Well, if it isn't Aaron Burr, Sir.</b><br /><br />Burr: <br />Can we agree that duels are dumb and immature?<br /><br /><b>Sure.<br />But your man has ta answer for his words, Burr.</b><br /><br />With his life? We both know that's absurd.<br /><br /><b>Hold on,<br />How many men died because [Trump] was inexperienced and ruinous?</b><br /><br />Ok, so we're doin' this.<br /></i>LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-33242755599833729372016-10-20T13:32:48.726-07:002016-10-20T13:32:48.726-07:00Dr Brin:
Put 1% as much effort into proving anyth...Dr Brin:<br /><i><br />Put 1% as much effort into proving anything at all, as you put into whimpering and moaning and rolling on the ground, kicking and holding your breath like a pants-wetting three year old.<br /></i><br /><br />You're being terribly unfair to pants-wetting three year olds. :)<br /><br />No, really. We've got an old cat at home who could give "Grumpy Cat" a run for his money in the obnoxious department. During the campaign, I started calling her "Trumpy Cat". After the first debate, I stopped calling her that and apologized...to the cat for comparing her to Donald Trump.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-87686940179042243832016-10-20T13:09:56.551-07:002016-10-20T13:09:56.551-07:00Dr. Brin,
"Exactly. Which is why the US is p...Dr. Brin,<br /><br />"Exactly. Which is why the US is pressuring Mexico, with some success, to tighten its much smaller southern border, saving us having to go crazy along OUR much larger southern border."<br /><br />The article (and similar others) do say that in 2015 that was working, but seems to be failing in 2016. None seem sure why, whether it's increased pressure in the Mexican southern border, people smugglers catching wise to the methods used to catch people, plain exhaustion after last year, or what.raitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-33894189267902934702016-10-20T12:53:22.897-07:002016-10-20T12:53:22.897-07:00There was an Occupy Hendersonville. That was defin...There was an Occupy Hendersonville. That was definitely in red territory. Occupy Hendersonville picketed the banks for weeks. It was made up not of young people crying "mic check" but oldsters, retirees whose retirement accounts had plunged. I guess nowadays locum's crew would be throwing stuff at them, and cursing and spitting.Jumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794110173836133321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-78937093897912714252016-10-20T12:50:57.008-07:002016-10-20T12:50:57.008-07:00Yeah, as if the idiot punks down at Occupy Charlot...Yeah, as if the idiot punks down at Occupy Charlotte control my life. Oh nos! It's the Blue Occupiers!Jumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794110173836133321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-28930973231699037202016-10-20T12:26:53.709-07:002016-10-20T12:26:53.709-07:00BTW. Were they rational beings, the confeds would...BTW. Were they rational beings, the confeds would calm down, negotiate, and stop abusing, waging war upon all the smart people. If they did that: (1) perhaps they would stop being outsmarted, <br /><br />(2) they might make a reasonable case against the admitted problem of some lefty PC-bully police.<br /><br />That problem does exist! There are lefty dogmatic moralizer-thugs. At their worst, they sometimes do genuine harm. Perhaps one zillionth the harm that conspiring feudalist lords and redder kluxxers do. Well... make that a zillionth of a zillionth. But if under-educated white males ever wised up, they could get actual allies in pushing back against the worst PC excesses.<br /><br />But the confeds won't do that. Because, well, they've driven off all the smart folks and created Idiocracy..<br /><br />David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-53554780386554864202016-10-20T12:05:30.043-07:002016-10-20T12:05:30.043-07:00locumranch:
Our Blue Urban Colonial System has be...locumranch:<br /><br /><i>Our Blue Urban Colonial System has become increasingly corrupt & authoritarian. It ignores the democratic will of an increasingly dissatisfied majority because 'Diversity is Good' ; it lectures the proletarian majority about what their will 'should be' in an effete, elite & top-down fashion; it insists that this majority must abide by passive political niceties that do not apply to the Establishment; and it demands that the Proles must accept the outcome of this rigged anti-democratic process as a 'Free Election'.</i><br /><br />Since you seem to be identifying with the "dissatisfied...proletarian majority", I think you need to be reminded of something.<br /><br />You are NOT the majority.<br /><br />You are the minority, and getting smaller every day. <br /><br />Sorry you don't like it. How does it feel?Smurphsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-7927224379847445992016-10-20T11:58:55.050-07:002016-10-20T11:58:55.050-07:00raito: “I agree about your ideas of the Mexican mi...raito: “I agree about your ideas of the Mexican middle class. But there's a lot more than Mexico down there.”<br /><br />Exactly. Which is why the US is pressuring Mexico, with some success, to tighten its much smaller southern border, saving us having to go crazy along OUR much larger southern border.<br /><br />------<br />Okay, locum has tipped over into outright treason. Declaring he shares the maniacal-cackling slander that Trump can only lose if it’s fixed, and thus sore-loser justifying destruction of faith in our nation's peaceful process.<br /><br /> PROVE IT, traitor. Coward. Whining loser. Prove one damn thing.<br /><br />Put 1% as much effort into proving anything at all, as you put into whimpering and moaning and rolling on the ground, kicking and holding your breath like a pants-wetting three year old.<br /><br />The ‘examples” offered by trumpists… a couple of mid-to-low-level DP dopes muttering in some emails… are pathetic. They pale in comparison to GOP state officials bragging, in front of cameras, about blocking thousands of minority folks from registering. Oh and Bernie and Warren are vigorously, energetically supporting HC and the DP. PROVE SOMETHING!<br /><br />Even Fox News polls show Trump rejected by voting America.<br /><br />All you do with your tantrum is prove why your cult will go down in flames. Because we are in fact not a dreamy-diaper feudal kindergarten but a civilization. If you confederates win, you will start firing squads.<br /><br />We in the Union have a better track record. Whenever we win... and thank God we mostly do ... the worst thing we do - ever - is invite you to calm down and rejoin negotiations.David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-61317707331114290982016-10-20T11:58:12.115-07:002016-10-20T11:58:12.115-07:00A different take on Clinton's campaign from Ez...<a href="http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/19/13340828/hillary-clinton-debate-trump-won" rel="nofollow">A different take</a> on Clinton's campaign from Ezra Klein.greg byshenknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-78740303422341320992016-10-20T11:21:56.447-07:002016-10-20T11:21:56.447-07:00Locum: "Even the likes of Barack Obama, Eliz...Locum: <i>"Even the likes of Barack Obama, Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders admit that the Corporate 'Fix is In' against the Common Man, and the Common Man has lost his patience with the Establishment's sophistry, false promises & delaying actions."</i><br /><br />Your "Common Man" would embrace a child molester who tells them that there are predators threatening the children. They would embrace Satan if he tells them "other people are immoral, you need me to guard you from those rogues and bastards." To that extent, the "Common Man" as you see him is uncommonly idiotic. Or like most in the Tea Party, he sees the 'solution' to a problem of a world full of bullshit to be diving into the manure pit and calling it a garden.<br /><br />My vision of the Common Man: he's smarter than that. Now if only the idiots misleading him were dealt with...donzelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991849781932619746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-10609050993579274222016-10-20T11:15:40.279-07:002016-10-20T11:15:40.279-07:00LarryHart: "The Republicans have also forecl...LarryHart: "The Republicans have also foreclosed that option by pretending that they are never in recess, even when they're on vacation for five weeks."<br /><br />Indeed. The Democrats have been very slow to use that to their advantage: show the double gavel bang, and then say: "This is what Legislator X thinks constitutes doing work. Wouldn't you love to have someone else clock you in so you get paid, without doing a dang thing?"<br /><br />"Here's Senator Johnson, putting in a hard days' work on behalf of Wisconsin?" Gavel bang, gavel bang, all done. "Now he gets to go home and play. Meanwhile, you drive on streets that are falling apart to feed your family...while he thinks he's better than you..."<br /><br />Hammer them for laziness, then let Americans make up their mind.donzelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991849781932619746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-67223999772256601002016-10-20T11:10:23.156-07:002016-10-20T11:10:23.156-07:00Paul SB: Dude, you and I have to start talking in ...Paul SB: Dude, you and I have to start talking in person, since our discussions here veer towards verbosity.<br /><br /><i>"After years of having a good president constantly thwarted by a bad Congress, hopefully more people will start to take down-ticket voting seriously."</i><br />I hope so. Dr. Brin is right: someone needs to call out a party that has decided that if "Good men" (McCain, Romney) cannot beat Democratic candidates, try bringing in the Bad Man. That sort of logic makes too many folks uncomfortable with voting in general, esp. on mid-term elections. <br /><br />And McCain's statements about 'never appointing any Supreme Court judges nominated by a Democrat' make him a far less 'good man' than he was a week ago. Ugh.<br /><br /><i>"Re: Education, good fact-checking instinct there! Most people would watch something like that and either bobble their heads or start grumbling about stupid smartypants professors not knowing squat. The facts you found very much support Dr. Brin's contention that states run by Democrats are simply governed more effectively than those run by Republicans."</i><br /><br />Ahem: you must give Romney a bit of credit there for Mass (and I sure wish Hillary had mentioned Romney positively: I LOOOOOVE the thought of Trump losing in Utah...proves that Mormons actually believe in what they claim to believe - most of them will endorse Satan if he votes for their party).<br /><br /><i>"All the metrics show this, yet few people look for facts when their culture tells them to close a blind eye."</i><br />I see a clear link between teacher pay and student outcomes: that's an indisputable link. But (1) I have to balance Romney's Massachusetts against Jeb Bush's Florida: one outperforms, the other underperforms, both had Republican governors administering education systems for years, and (2) too many states have not tried to do the PISA game independently from the national average - I'd like to know where the other 47 fall.<br /><br /><i>"They [Americans] don't have a lot of respect for teachers."</i><br />Curious: <i>"they"</i>? ;-) Yep, I do that too.<br /><br />At standard babysitter rates ($5/kid/hour), many teachers would earn $160k plus. When a society values babysitting more than educating, something is wrong.<br /><br /><i>"Street Corner Society"</i><br />Will add that one to the list. Enjoyed Ehrenreich's 'Nickel and Dimed' - which appears to have some similarities (though her focus was on the female experience in certain working poor environments).<br /><br />re "Italian poor" - note that they were the 2nd strongest ethnic group among whites to back Trump according to the only polls I'm aware of (after only the Germans). Intriguing.<br /><br />I'll have to ponder your observations about parent/teacher discipline issues another time though. Back to work for me...donzelionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991849781932619746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-29765260930225522612016-10-20T10:55:27.967-07:002016-10-20T10:55:27.967-07:00locumranch:
Much like Brexit, Trump is a Stink Bo...locumranch:<br /><i><br />Much like Brexit, Trump is a Stink Bomb aimed at the heart of the Establishment Classroom:<br /></i><br /><br />The difference is that the British public voted for Brexit. They didn't vote for "Remain" and then claim the vote was rigged. Your guy is going down on Election Day, and all your whining won't change the fact that more people opted to stay with stable government and try to work changes from within rather than overturn the entire chessboard in a fit of pique. Hillary might not be the first choice of "the people", but that's even more damning toward Trump that, despite all that, he's going to <b>lose</b> to her. <br /><br />I get that a sizeable minority feel as you do, but they will remain a minority, at least for now, and God willing, forever. An old politically-incorrect joke used to have as its punchline "How does it feel to be dumber than a [insert ethnic slur here]?" Likewise, one might well ask of your side, "How does it feel to lose an election to Hillary Clinton?"<br /><br />So let's be clear. You're not threatening what's going to happen when Trump demonstrates that his rhetoric can carry an election. You're threatening violence after his inevitable loss. And I really doubt you've got the balls to go through with that.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.com