tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post3921697869046809058..comments2024-03-29T00:39:31.629-07:00Comments on CONTRARY BRIN: Want to Investigate Electoral Fraud? Start with whistle blowers and judo!David Brinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comBlogger175125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-83467455817677221782017-01-31T18:06:36.635-08:002017-01-31T18:06:36.635-08:00onward
onward
onward<br /><br />onward<br /><br />David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-4599939554500639412017-01-31T18:06:27.024-08:002017-01-31T18:06:27.024-08:00Zepp sure it looks as if Trumpism is a caricature ...<br />Zepp sure it looks as if Trumpism is a caricature of Bushism and Tea Party mania and oligarchy taken to such an extreme, that some have raised the idea that it’s all a big plot to discredit and destroy American Conservatism. Like they needed help? The Bushite version had already driven off every knowledge profession, sending average education levels and IQ among Republicans plummeting. A pungent Tom Tomorrow comic strip shows a frustrated closet-commie Dick Cheney whining that no degree of stupidity or betrayal – undermining the system from within – seemed to enough to turn their mass followers away from slavish devotion to oligarchy. http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/<br /><br />But the scenario posits vastly too much Machiavellian cleverness by democrats, who cannot even realize they must do the thing I recommend in this blog!<br /><br />LH: re American Nazis… do watch The Man in the High Castle<br /><br />Catfish, your resolution #3 – Blue victory – comes with a historical addendum. That blue America is seldom vindictive. Read Lincoln’s 2nd Inaugural. Reds will murmur outrage, sulk, accept the new world’s wonders, and plot their next Dixie Cup rising against our kids.<br /><br />CarlM “The border shutdown has been done before -- under Obama.”<br />Bullshit, as is your every other point. Assertions replace evidence. Grand proclamations substitute for reasoned comparison. Who ARE you and what have you done with the Carl I know?<br /><br />EVERY single state that has pulled back from the Drug War is a Blue State. Yet your mind cannot deal with the cognitive dissonance.<br /><br />EVERY Deregulation of over-reaching or captured government – banning the CAB and ICC and unleashing the Internet and GPS and telecom – was done by democrats. Dissonance! So look away! <br /><br />EVERY metric of healthy, flat-fair-open-competitive markets does better under democrats. As does personal freedom. Dissonance!<br /><br />SO you rail against Bill Clinton for cheaply and efficiently and effectively and surgically resolving the Bosnian crisis and giving Europe its first peace in 4000 years. Oops, ignore how popular he is over there, today. Everywhere. And yes even (among young people) in Serbia. What dizzy nonsense.<br /><br />You need to look here http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2012/10/how-democrats-and-republicans-wage-war.html<br /><br />“Save the anger for when Trump does something Obama didn't do.”<br /><br />Sir, you have goner completely around the bend.<br /><br />“Democrats have been focusing too much on markets and not enough on PEOPLE.”<br /><br />Vwheeeeeeeeeeeeee! Caper and cavort wheeee!<br />David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-78734208965575528252017-01-31T16:28:32.403-08:002017-01-31T16:28:32.403-08:00Zepp, here's what you do: sell half of them, u...Zepp, here's what you do: sell half of them, use the money for an Orion ship to Proxima Centauri B (and the other half of the bombs to power it).TCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153506222271955110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-7486489934084566622017-01-31T15:28:40.815-08:002017-01-31T15:28:40.815-08:00Give me 260 nuclear weapons and I could raise a fa...Give me 260 nuclear weapons and I could raise a fair old bit of mischief. Zepp Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16261339498383415026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-45049500557063237642017-01-31T15:23:26.805-08:002017-01-31T15:23:26.805-08:00Robert wrote: " But Trump is leading us to a ...Robert wrote: " But Trump is leading us to a war with China, maybe Iran, and whoever else gets sufficiently pissed off at Trump's America."<br /><br />One of the more interesting things about Iran is that it has a non-aggression treaty with Russia, so if Trump attacks Iran, his old buddy Putin might just conclude that is an act of war and respond accordingly. I question if Trump and Bannon even understand the implications of such a pact, or that it even exists.<br /><br />With most Republicans, they do know better, but when they talk about attacking Iran they're just pandering to idiots and/or the Israelis. You may have notice that Netanyahu never attacked, despite his apparent belief for the past eight years that Iran was only weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon.Zepp Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16261339498383415026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-7971140465070806462017-01-31T15:06:48.332-08:002017-01-31T15:06:48.332-08:00Carl M: "The border shutdown has been done be...Carl M: "The border shutdown has been done before -- under Obama. Where was the liberal wailing and gnashing of teeth? Where was the wailing over the daily drone attacks under our peace prize winner?"<br /><br />Nah, that's just right wing crap being repeated ceaselessly in the RW bubble. The borders were never "closed"--not in the sense being pretended to here. Obama simply had the government stop accepting new refugee applications for several months. He wasn't turning away green card and visa holders without cause, the way this criminal idiot tried. <br />There's one way to prove the difference: no court struck down Obama's action. Three courts have struck down Trump's, in just two days. See the difference?Zepp Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16261339498383415026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-45381315774868904522017-01-31T14:48:35.353-08:002017-01-31T14:48:35.353-08:00@TCB:
I think Paul's points were:
1) There&#...@TCB:<br /><br />I think Paul's points were:<br /><br />1) There's a good reason why no president took the further step of revoking the citizenship of the owner of a news empire<br /><br />and<br /><br />2) It's too bad the press doesn't play the same smash-mouth against Cheetolini, when it really matters. At that press conference when he refused to call on CNN (fake news), every single reporter's question afterwards should have been "Same question," or else "Why don't you answer his question?"LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-73470405003475358802017-01-31T14:02:31.637-08:002017-01-31T14:02:31.637-08:00Paul451 said:
They screamed bloody murder over fa...Paul451 said:<br /><br /><i>They screamed bloody murder over fake journalists being merely excluded from the WH press room.(**) How do you think they'd react to a President using political trickery to deliberately undermine the very legal ownership of a major network?</i><br /><br />They'd react badly, I am sure. And? Why, oh why, is it only the right-wingers who are allowed to play smash-mouth?<br /><br />In other words, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BQAAT10Mw" rel="nofollow">Bawk bawk baCAAAA! BAWK BAWK BAWK BACAAA!</a>TCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153506222271955110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-12638734241010561622017-01-31T13:42:23.200-08:002017-01-31T13:42:23.200-08:00Well, we all know that if China launches nukes, th...Well, we all know that if China launches nukes, the area around Vegas will be defended (except for one or two errant missiles) by the defenses constructed by an eccentric billionaire, DC will be devastated and later fall under the control of Super Mutants, and Boston will be partially spared (although not from the radiation!) by the fact that the missile launched from the <i>Yangtze</i> will miss, striking southwest of the city... ;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11903687674146271189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-41531983315968527992017-01-31T13:31:49.639-08:002017-01-31T13:31:49.639-08:00Carl M,
"Recall WWI. (And Tsar Nicolas went t...Carl M,<br /><i>"Recall WWI. (And Tsar Nicolas went to war due to popular demand. He cried when he mobilized the troops.)"</i><br /><br />Public objections to Russia's involvement in WWI was the primary motivator for both 1917 revolutions. Right from the beginning, in spite of public hostility towards Germany, there was widespread cynicism over the Tsar's motives for involving Russia in European war.<br /><br />"He cried when he mobilized the troops"? {laughs}<br /><br /><i>"Hitlary promised to make Ukraine a priority."</i><br /><br />One more time, any chance you want to back that up with anything she actually said?<br /><br />[Although it's interesting that you've already walked it down from "pushing for nuclear brinksmanship with Russia" and "her policies (a stated priority!) were to back Russia into a corner" all the way down to just "make Ukraine a priority".]Paul451https://www.blogger.com/profile/12119086761190994938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-59862646115314197992017-01-31T13:30:29.282-08:002017-01-31T13:30:29.282-08:00TCB,
"For years now, I have believed that Rup...TCB,<br /><i>"For years now, I have believed that Rupert Murdoch only became a US citizen so that he could legally expand his media empire to include the US market"</i><br /><br />Uhh, is that a controversial view in the US? Coz in Australia it's considered a mundane fact. (I'm sure I've seen local columnists in News Corp papers casually referring to it without qualifiers.)<br /><br /><i>"f I were Bill Clinton or Barack Obama I would have signed an executive order revoking his citizenship at once, preferably when he was somewhere overseas, thus throwing ownership of Fox into doubt. [...]<br />But if the president justified revoking Murdoch's citizenship on the terms I just laid out, along with a little history talk about the Fairness Doctrine and why it had existed in the first place, not everyone would disagree."</i><br /><br />{laughs} Obama's press secretary tried to exclude some of the fake news outlets like Breitbart and Drudge from WH accreditation, for reasons like not being actual journalists, being deliberately disruptive in press conferences, etc. And even though they didn't touch mainstream conservative outlets with real reporters - like Fox and News Corp papers, Forbes, etc - the mainstream outlets like CNN/NYT protested and boycotted press conferences until the WH backed down. <br /><br />They screamed bloody murder over fake journalists being merely excluded from the WH press room.(**) How do you think they'd react to a President using political trickery to deliberately undermine the very legal ownership of a major network?<br /><br />** (Of course, when Trump does it, everyone posts a mild complaint and moves on. Because "both sides are the same!" Fucking idiots.)<br /><br />--<br /><br />Alfred,<br /><i>"This isn't about territory. It is about culture. Civil wars are like that and they don't end until one of two conditions is met."</i><br /><br /><i>The</i> Civil War didn't eliminate cultural differences between the Union and Confederacy. And it didn't kill off enough of the southern population to prevent them from raising a new army.Paul451https://www.blogger.com/profile/12119086761190994938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-81042669424730201012017-01-31T13:16:37.568-08:002017-01-31T13:16:37.568-08:00All China needs to do is launch half of their nuke...All China needs to do is launch half of their nukes at us. No doubt some are targeted at military bases, others at port and coastal cities. If 10% of what they launch gets through our missile defenses (and it'll be more than that) then we still have lost anywhere between one and 13 military bases, coastal cities, and the like. And that is assuming they launched multiple nukes at each site, thus the possibility of only one city or base being nuked. <br /><br />In all likelihood over half of them will hit. The West Coast will be gone. We will have lost Silicon Valley, California and a lot of farmland which will become contaminated with fallout, Hawaii, southern Alaska. Bases in the heartland of America. Of course, in doing so Trump wins as do the Republicans because in 2020 the Census will roll out and California will lose all but one House seat, as will Oregon and Washington State (as in all likelihood Trump would drag his feet in helping the West Coast and far more people would die than needed to). Not that there would be actual elections. Permanent State of Emergency you know. People tossed in jail for daring to call out the Republicans for causing this or insisting on civil rights.<br /><br />For all that I despise Pence... I will breath easier if he takes over before Trump leads us to a major war. He is a monster... but still the lesser evil compared to Trump. We can retake our civil liberties. But rebuilding after a war? Decontaminating all that soil, dealing with the loss of our nation as the neo-fascists take control and refuse to loosen their grip? That is not a fight I want to fight. Lesser evils.<br /><br />Rob H.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-64699221480762301732017-01-31T12:53:25.644-08:002017-01-31T12:53:25.644-08:00O wait, that was Robert, not Carl.O wait, that was Robert, not Carl.TCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153506222271955110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-38049416589545954212017-01-31T12:51:20.847-08:002017-01-31T12:51:20.847-08:00Carl might have a point about China, though. I'...Carl might have a point about China, though. I'd bet they are having meetings on the topic of "The United States has 6,800 nuclear weapons; Russia has 7,000; we Chinese have 260. Even the French have more! How many warheads can we build, and how soon?"TCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153506222271955110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-84637563963621719072017-01-31T11:31:16.986-08:002017-01-31T11:31:16.986-08:00Carl's been reduced to repeating right-wing ta...Carl's been reduced to repeating right-wing talking points that have already been debunked. I have therefore shrouded him; in these tumultuous times, I have no attention to spare for such nonsense.<br /><br />Alfred, I hold that Donnie is illegitimate as President not because of the election (while I do have severe reservations about the whole affair, I have no concrete proof), but because he violated his Oath of Office [i]the moment he took it.[/i] He swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States - while at that very moment being in violation of the Emoluments Clause. He has since ignored other clauses and amendments, continuing and increasing his oathbreaking. This makes him illegitimate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11903687674146271189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-61847874407398722572017-01-31T10:40:25.853-08:002017-01-31T10:40:25.853-08:00Carl, China is preparing for war with the United S...Carl, China is preparing for war with the United States because of Trump's actions. China possesses hundreds of nuclear weapons. Do you honestly think that should U.S. firepower prove effective against their military might that China isn't going to launch their nukes at us? You complain that Hillary MIGHT cause a nuclear war with Russia because Putin dislikes her. But Trump is leading us to a war with China, maybe Iran, and whoever else gets sufficiently pissed off at Trump's America. <br /><br />In addition, you are using a false argument. Obama put a hold on NEW APPLICATIONS FOR VISAS from Iraq, but accepted current ones. People already in the pipeline were allowed in. People who filed before the freeze did not see their requests denied outright. The moment that Obama decreed the hold, if you were an Iraqi on a flight into the United States you were allowed into the United States.<br /><br />Donald Trump had people arrested at the airport and refused lawyers. He refused the Rule of Law. He refused their human rights. In no way is Obama like Donald Trump. Get that thought out of your asshole right now because there IS NO COMPARISON THAT MAKES TRUMP LOOK GOOD. <br /><br />Sadly, people like you, people like my mother, just hear me saying I'm against Trump and they fucking call me a Democrat. I'm not a Republican so I have to be a Democrat. There is only ONE Democrat I voted for in my life, and that was Obama back in 2008 when I lived in New Hampshire and my vote mattered... and I seriously thought Sarah Palin a threat to this nation. I had no idea that I would look back at Palin and see her as a thoughtful and decent presidential candidate in comparison to a sitting President.<br /><br />And when I state and I do so state that Donald Trump is an Illegitimate President, it is not because of how he was elected. It is his actions since taking office, in refusing to sell off his properties or sufficiently divorce himself from the running of his hotel chain and other businesses, in repeatedly violating the Constitution in his dictates, in his betrayal of the Oath of Office, that I consider him Illegitimate. <br /><br />We are now at what, 90 days? Until he is impeached or in some fashion removed from office. <br /><br />Rob H.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-10709999586102106542017-01-31T10:04:34.856-08:002017-01-31T10:04:34.856-08:00Berial:
HOWEVER, they do have some big similariti...Berial:<br /><i><br />HOWEVER, they do have some big similarities that the Democrats need to change. The last couple of decades the Democrats have been focusing too much on markets and not enough on PEOPLE.<br /></i><br /><br />I think that in the 1990s, Democrats "learned" that to be successful, they had to run as "Republicans with a conscience".<br /><br />The most recent election was won by just the opposite strategy. His Illegitimacy won by running as a "Democrat without a conscience".<br /><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-68086684861181595522017-01-31T10:01:59.059-08:002017-01-31T10:01:59.059-08:00Carl M:
Hitlary promised
Now, who's "s...Carl M:<br /><i><br />Hitlary promised <br /></i><br />Now, who's "slinging around terms"?<br /><br /><i><br />Save the anger for when Trump does something Obama didn't do. Otherwise, he's going to exhaust you. Hamming it up when he angers his opposition is his strategy.<br /></i><br /><br />Trump has been doing things <b>no</b> candidate or president has done since the primaries. With Obama, the rest of the world respected us. In Trump's first 10 days, he's made us a laughing stock at best and an untrustworthy partner to allies whose trust is important to us.<br /><br />Despite Dr Brin's rebuttals, your argument so far is that Hillary is dangerous because of one thing (nuclear war), irrespective of any characteristic of the other guy. Likewise, I find Trump dangerously scary all on his own. What's the percentage in bringing Obama into the discussion now, other than the fact that he'd still be president had a third term been constitutional?<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-75650787142890979992017-01-31T09:52:52.757-08:002017-01-31T09:52:52.757-08:00@Rob H on "eliminating government"
The ...@Rob H on "eliminating government"<br /><br />The Christian writer C.S. Lewis tried to assert that one had to be either a monotheist or a pagan--that there was nothing else. He used the metaphor, "You can't eat without using a knife and fork, but without using your hands either."<br /><br />It seems to me that that metaphor describes the attempt to "eliminate government". If you eliminate the established order, another order fills in the vacuum.<br /><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-83265665349942078622017-01-31T09:29:23.805-08:002017-01-31T09:29:23.805-08:003) Democrats and Republicans are the same.
They ar...3) Democrats and Republicans are the same.<br />They are not. HOWEVER, they do have some big similarities that the Democrats need to change. The last couple of decades the Democrats have been focusing too much on markets and not enough on PEOPLE. They are more worried about the big finance, pharma, and other corporate money coming to their campaign war chests and not enough about large amounts of 'small donations'. Why? Because for most of them those small donations AREN'T there. I'd posit they aren't there because the little guys don't see the Democrats as actually HELPING them enough to support directly, but that might be a district by district thing. The Democrats need to figure out what they ACTUALLY support and push that. I approve of most of their social stances personally, of course, but all these social stances aren't putting more money in the little guy's pockets, and I'd posit THAT is #1 to a lot of people. The Democrats have got to stop offering Republican light (or 'smart' if you prefer) answers, and start offering THEIR solutions that help out the people of the country more. Social policy wise they seem to be doing well, but I don't think they are getting traction with economic policy and "It's the economy, stupid." is still in full effect. After the last election I feel they need to re-examine their ideas and make sure they have a message that their ideas WILL make life better for more Americans. Show your work, and give us REASONS to believe your economic policies will work and not just, "it's better than the Republicans".<br /><br />The Republican's are going to continue to get support from their base regardless of how off the rails they go, because their base LIKES what they think they stand for; In my opinion basically "lower taxes, no abortions, hate and/or fear the boogyman(whoever that happens to be today), be against the liberal positions on everything(updated daily) and don't think about any policies too deeply". <br /><br />Sorry for not giving the Republican's too much credit here, but I haven't seen any policy of theirs that doesn't boil down to support of authoritarian oligopoly when you really dig down into them and think about the results.Berialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-32239217203729610352017-01-31T09:29:06.198-08:002017-01-31T09:29:06.198-08:001) Russia and Clinton being 'more dangerous...1) Russia and Clinton being 'more dangerous' than Trump. <br />An opinion call. Personally, I think you show your strength to someone like Putin and he remains in his stance. Ready to reply if attacked but not willing to attack by trying to land the first blow himself. Trump to me is 'more dangerous' simply because he's inexperienced (to be kind) and will NOT show strength before it's needed, and we end up in a war simply because Putin THOUGHT he could do something and expect a weak or non-answer from America, but Trump decides to over-react because he suddenly needs to "look tough". Clinton would at least have seen the game before and know how to play it, even if you don't think she can play it well, you have to admit she did have knowledge of how it's played.<br /><br />2) Trump illegitimacy. <br />Russia hacked all sides of our political classes data. Picked out the bits that would confuse and divide our citizens and released that data. They didn't 'hack' our electronic voting machines or anything like that. That wasn't necessary, or even a very good idea. They simply INFLUENCED our entire voting citizenry to cause the US as much confusion and divisions as possible. That doesn't make Trump 'illegitimate' but it does make the country weaker because WE are divided and have no real recourse to reverse this 'culture divide'. The Republicans played a part in adding to the anger, confusion and division by adding in a helping of voter suppression. And don't forget Comey is a Republican that just happened to need to toss a nothingburger monkey wrench into the public's view just weeks before the election. The Russian issue (hacking) needs to be addressed but I don't know that it has a good answer that will work well. The voting issue (suppression) has GOT to be fixed and soon, or we're going to have REAL trouble. I don't see Trump or the political operatives currently in power helping the situation anytime soon, because it obviously put THEM in power. Republicans supporting Republican's first, BEFORE being AMERICANS needs to stop.Berialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-78400155209192183152017-01-31T09:25:23.689-08:002017-01-31T09:25:23.689-08:00The border shutdown has been done before -- under ...The border shutdown has been done before -- under Obama. Where was the liberal wailing and gnashing of teeth? Where was the wailing over the daily drone attacks under our peace prize winner?<br /><br />Hitlary promised to make Ukraine a priority. <br /><br />The Clintons had an authoritarian record on law and order issues that matches Trump's rhetoric.<br /><br />The Clinton's broke the post Cold War good feelings by taking sides in the Serbian/Bosnian conflict. Russians not happy about that. Recall WWI. (And Tsar Nicolas went to war due to popular demand. He cried when he mobilized the troops.)<br /><br />Exactly where Trump is going to go on the Drug War is uncertain. I keep seeing mixed signals. He's a non-drinker who put his name on a brand of vodka. He owned casinos.<br /><br />-----<br /><br />Save the anger for when Trump does something Obama didn't do. Otherwise, he's going to exhaust you. Hamming it up when he angers his opposition is his strategy.Carl M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01278814334603631598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-12146193202937268292017-01-31T09:01:16.054-08:002017-01-31T09:01:16.054-08:00Slim? That was absolutely beautiful. Thank you for...Slim? That was absolutely beautiful. Thank you for your verse. <br /><br />=====<br /><br />Carl M. - I am a Social Libertarian. Donald Trump scares me on a fundamental level and he does not respect Libertarian values. He does not even respect property rights, which is a keystone for the Randian Libertarians who have the current heart of the Libertarian Party. If you consider yourself any form of Libertarian you would be so against Trump that there would be zero argument. <br /><br />But it seems you don't care about Libertarian views. You just want to punish Democrats and liberal-minded people<br /><br />I hate Hillary Clinton. Ask anyone here. If you go through the history of me on this blog you will see my consistent pattern of dislike toward the woman, in part because I detest her husband. And even with my hatred of her, I consider her a hundred million times better at keeping world peace and upholding civil liberties than I do Donald Trump. <br /><br />BTW, not all Libertarians are pro-Trump, my friends. My good friend Avens O'Brien is a long-time Libertarian and is fighting for the soul of Libertarians and constantly urging people to think in her blog posts, her Facebook posts, and more. I am proud of Avens and her fight for the souls of Libertarians. And I hope she succeeds. <br /><br />However, I also realize that most of the loud Libertarians are in fact just anti-government who think if government was eliminated, they'd end up top dog, or a pet of one of the warlords who would inevitably crop up. And I also see the greatest flaw in Libertarianism - it ignores the fact that if you dismantle government and have an anarchistic society, the ultra-rich would already possess most of the resources and everyone else would be poor and forced to eke out a living. <br /><br />The only way you could have an effective anarchistic society is to eliminate all property rights, evenly divide all resources among all the people, and then restore property rights so that all people have equality in terms of property and resources, and then let trade and the like start up.<br /><br />But that smells like communism to the Libertarian-Anarchists. ;) <br /><br />Rob H.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-22854462926446109952017-01-31T08:59:49.662-08:002017-01-31T08:59:49.662-08:00...I meant if you still want to hear Bill Press....I meant if you still want to hear Bill Press.LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-72759181989081370102017-01-31T08:59:03.292-08:002017-01-31T08:59:03.292-08:00@TCB:
Yes, I've heard good things about Ashev...@TCB:<br /><br />Yes, I've heard good things about Asheville.<br /><br />But radio is so 20th Century. :)<br /><br />Get the feed from WCPT 820 in Chicago. You can always stream the current show.<br /><br />http://www.wcpt820.com/listen-live/<br /><br /><br /><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.com