tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post6536125442960373733..comments2024-03-29T00:39:31.629-07:00Comments on CONTRARY BRIN: Is World War IV taking shape?David Brinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-80041031652657675912014-03-29T23:07:47.310-07:002014-03-29T23:07:47.310-07:00Let me Guess, Step One of Anon's Plan to end t...Let me Guess, Step One of Anon's Plan to end the Rule of The System is to end Democracy and its associated Rights.<br /><br />Because... something something... underpants.Paul451https://www.blogger.com/profile/12119086761190994938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-28386361448651428082014-03-29T17:35:07.570-07:002014-03-29T17:35:07.570-07:00onwardonwardDavid Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-30927169382287201472014-03-29T17:35:01.377-07:002014-03-29T17:35:01.377-07:00Bah, Locum. Notice he cites Iraqi WMDs and Grenad...<br />Bah, Locum. Notice he cites Iraqi WMDs and Grenada and all trumped up republican war excuses… and does not cite the much bigger campaign of restraint through strength that keep the overall peace… e.g. NATA… and avoided the scheduled major world war that would have torched the entire world. He has zero perspective, if he considers Iraq or Grenada to be “major” in any way shape or form… except that Iraq was an excuse to steal a trillion dollars from taxpayers to go to the pockets of Bush family companies.<br /><br />He shrugs off the fact that “we haven't had a real "war" since the WW2's 50 million + casualties.” And utterly ignores what that fact means.<br /><br />Yes, capitalism contains within it the seeds and opportunities for cheaters… and hence Smith prescribed regulatory republics to keep preventing oligarchic putches… what Locum ignores is that is exactly what we have done… till now. <br /><br />Again, he ignores 6000 years. He cannot look at 600 years. 6000 years are inconvenient. So 6000 years do not exist.<br />David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-27245037847049009092014-03-29T16:23:38.560-07:002014-03-29T16:23:38.560-07:00The Saudis have not only not stymied all attempts ...The Saudis have not only not stymied all attempts at Israeli-Palestinian peace, they were the moving spirits behind the Arab League Peace initiative of 2002, the best deal the Arabs collectively have ever offered Israel. Much can be adduced to the discredit of the House of Saud, but not the lack of an Israeli-Palestinian peace.William Burnsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-60288412961340688842014-03-29T15:40:21.086-07:002014-03-29T15:40:21.086-07:00[Part 1]
The current situation that exists in the...[Part 1]<br /><br />The current situation that exists in the world ... is one of dominance by the so-called "New World Order", which basically means the domination of the Magian. This domination over the West - and increasingly other countries - is essentially that of what is often euphemistically called "Zionism" with the reality that most nations in the West are covertly ruled by a Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG). <br /><br />This situation has arisen from two factors. First, the covert introduction into the societies of the West of Marxist, and Marxist-sociological, values and ideas, Second, from the military and economic dominance of America which is all but now controlled by Zionist interests. In respect of the the introduction of Marxism, the societies of the West have been steadily "socially engineered", through laws, through the power of the Media, through government schemes, and through indoctrination spread especially by teachers in Schools and Universities. This "social engineering" has been to produce - and has produced - a plebeian society (lacking in honour and true excellence) and tyrannical governments who rule by that organized protection racket known as State and government taxes, and by the rule of an ignoble and abstract law, which abstract law is the antithesis of the warrior law of personal honour. <br /><br />The reality is that a world-wide capitalist tyranny has been created, with the peoples of the West made for the most part docile through materialism and "entertainment" and "sport" and "personal pursuits", with their opinions formed for them by The State, its educational system, politicians, and the Media - especially television and newspapers. The individual has become subservient to The State in thought, word and deed. Basically, the individual is now mostly powerless before the might of The State.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-34043845088991081902014-03-29T15:38:15.965-07:002014-03-29T15:38:15.965-07:00Of course, the majority do not see this, duped as ...Of course, the majority do not see this, duped as they are and have been by The System with its trickery of "democracy" and "rights". In addition, some dissent and "rebellion" is allowed, and even encouraged - so long as it does threaten in any real way the ideas and the control of The System. Those individuals, groups, organizations who do or who may pose a serious threat to The System are dealt with, often by those organizations being outlawed, and their leaders and members being tried according to some tyrannical State law and put into prison for a long time. <br /><br />The System - having made itself secure among The States of the West - has recently embarked on the next part of the plan, which is to create a new Empire to ensure the material wealth and military superiority of its leading lackey government, that of the America. To this end, countries have been invaded, and sanctions used to bring others under control. <br /><br />The System and its lackey States are a serious threat to our evolution - to the creation of free, strong, independent human beings. The System wants - and even demands - that we are or become subservient, to its ways, its laws, its sociological ideas, to the basic materialistic animalistic way of life its allows for its "citizens", a way devoid of real adventure, real challenges, real numinosity. This way is the way of the sub-human.<br /><br />One of our aims as an esoteric Order is to continue our evolution through creating a higher, more evolved, type of human being - a strong, independent, warrior-like, individual. This individual is the antithesis of the denizens of The State - of the individual in thrall to Old Aeon abstractions and ideas - and in this truth is the essence of the understanding required to appreciate, and know, the current situation vis-a-vis Aeonics and sinister strategy. <br /><br />For this aim of a new human type to be achieved, we must break-down and indeed destroy the States that make up The System, the New World Order (NWO), as we must challenge the enervating ideas, the enervating ways, of The System, and replace them with our own life-enhancing ideas and ways.<br /><br />If The System is not destroyed, then our evolution will be stifled, and our promise - the greatness, Destiny and glories which await among the Cosmos - will remain unfulfilled.<br /><br />--Anton Long, Order of the Nine Angles (http://omega9alpha.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/the-requisite-ona.pdf )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-4280414547601223162014-03-29T15:27:26.029-07:002014-03-29T15:27:26.029-07:00Though not in nomenclature, it's nice to see t...Though not in nomenclature, it's nice to see that David and I agree in principle on so many details:<br /><br />Whereas I credit "(the unifying effect of) omnipresent threat" for global unity, David correctly credits 'Pax Americana' for such apparent unity, forgetting that both serve the same purpose from the non-American viewpoint excepting that Americans need to manufacture threats like WMDs, drugs & Grenada to maintain their Pax independent unity.<br /><br />Notice, also, how David puts the term "war" in quotation marks when he talks about declining war-related casualty rates and collateral damage over the last "several decades", the right move (obviously) when we haven't had a real "war" since the WW2's 50 million + casualties.<br /><br />David even appears to agree with me on the inequality inherent in Smithian Economics, excepting that David predilection toward 'optimism' forces him to pull Smith out of context while I prefer to frame Smith as incomplete, a complement to and a contemporary of both Malthus and Ricardo.<br /><br />Even so, we part ways when it comes to David's unprincipled take on the 'regulated bullying' of the 'Smithian-enlightenment state'. I say instead that 'bullying' is not liberty, liberty is not 'bullying' and 'liberty is contrary to authority'. <br /><br />Science cannot fail us, but Scientism has. And, on this, we can all agree. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Bestlocumranchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-19505794712965651492014-03-29T15:01:19.420-07:002014-03-29T15:01:19.420-07:00Here, David, is another win in your predictions re...Here, David, is another win in your predictions registry. Companies hiring "auties" to use their focusing skills. Not exactly a long range prediction, but you called it the first that I saw. http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/03/28/autism_at_work_companies_like_sap_and_freddie_mac_are_hiring_people_with.html?wpisrc=hpsponsoredd2 <br /><br />More pertinent to the discussion at hand- this really comes down to a fight between those who profit from natural resource extraction and those that profit from a post-scarcity economy. As the cost of solar / wind / geothermal / whatever else is dropping, the empires built on non-renewable resources are fading. They are manipulating the economy and geopolitical to grasp the last shreds of their power. I do know that we are a long way from "energy independence" but the oligarchs that have had such power for the last 100 years are starting to realize that the end is coming. Science is triumphing. A corner is being turned just in time. And those that have profited so much in scarcity are justifiably terrified of the world they are about to see. <br />Or, if science fails us, they are scrambling to have the biggest hoard to sit on and wait out the end of the world. <br />Truly, I think the reality is both. matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17757867868731829206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-49604792113273149862014-03-29T14:06:03.832-07:002014-03-29T14:06:03.832-07:00Dr. Brin, Here's a little story that may be ne...Dr. Brin, <a href="http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/scientists-translate-dolphin-whistles" rel="nofollow">Here's a little story that may be near and dear to your heart</a> - or at least your writing soul! ;)<br /><br />Rob H.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-52960984494876936112014-03-29T12:11:22.166-07:002014-03-29T12:11:22.166-07:00Goldman Sachs trying to head off attempts to curb ...Goldman Sachs trying to head off attempts to curb HFT. Just the financial industry preserving its right to predatory activity.<br /><br /><a href="http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303563304579447692855042948" rel="nofollow">The Responsible Way to Rein in Super-Fast Trading </a><br /><br />Alex Tolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01556422553154817988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-15237227118884843212014-03-29T11:28:37.466-07:002014-03-29T11:28:37.466-07:00Locum is back in articulate and cogent phase. But...Locum is back in articulate and cogent phase. But that does not make him right. It turns out that his assertion-cynical-snark "apparent that our great globe-spanning civilization cannot overcome internal divisiveness without (the unifying effect of) omnipresent threat, whether that threat be manufactured, real or imagined, which is exactly what WAR"…<br /><br />… runs diametrically opposite to the actual events of 70 years. Under protection of the American Pax, huge swathes of the world have been able to spend far lower amounts, per capita, on arms and defense than any other generation. Western and now eastern Europe spend dribbles (and are re-examining that in light of Crimea). Latin America spends almost nothing on arms and armies. Likewise Japan and most of southeast asia. <br /><br />I'll admit that China is diving into a huge buildup, in part as a stimulative demand driver and also out of imperial ambition. I do not deny that's a phenomenon. But it is financed by WalMart. Sorry locum. Cogent and snarky… but dead wrong.<br /><br />…<br /><br />ah but then he slips back into incoherence… Given that casualty rates and collateral damage acceptability ratios in "war" have plummeted across the last several decades, to levels that do not even marginally affect population levels… where does he get this stuff?<br /><br />Yes, liberty is contrary to "authority" as authority was practiced for 6000 years. So? That is one reason for the Smithian-enlightenment state, whose mission was to regulate the unregulated bullying that used to be the human norm. Indeed, nearly three quarters of a million Americans died in that fight, 150 years ago. And the liberty they advanced remained flawed… but better than anything before it…<br /><br />… and kept gradually improving.<br /><br />To conflate a regulatory republic with feudal authoritarianism is just… plain… stupid. Yes, the former always is in danger of tipping into the latter So?<br /><br />Stop snarking and help fix it.David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-78850255535490398422014-03-29T10:12:18.448-07:002014-03-29T10:12:18.448-07:00Alfred has it backwards:
First, we can ameliorate...Alfred has it backwards:<br /><br />First, we can ameliorate climate change in an immediate fashion WITHOUT culling by modifying our current socioeconomic system because human CO2 production is directly proportional to our socioeconomic behaviour.<br /><br />Second, the culling of the so-called human population 'excess' would only be necessary to ameliorate climate change if we insist on keeping our current (western) socioeconomic system which, btw, is infamous for being immoderate & wasteful.<br /><br />Third, our culture already practices & endorses human culling excepting that we call it 'warfare' (and/or the penal system) and, as we all know, both become inevitable when we try to maintain the socioeconomic Status Quo, making World War 4 and Abu Ghraib inevitable only if we insist on maintaining our system as is.<br /><br />Our current socioeconomic system depends on trade; trade depends on inequality (otherwise we have nothing with which to 'trade'); inequality depends on a centralized hierarchy (to ensure inequality); and a centralized hierarchy forms the basis of our current socioeconomic system. History arrests to this.<br /><br />Perhaps unconsciously, David knows this, endorses the destruction of centralized authority through decentralization -- 3D printing, the information super highway, enlightened anarchy, resource independence, sousveillance & the rise of the non-expert -- but refuses to accept the truth of his judgments because of his hard-won place in the existing hierarchy.<br /><br />Liberty is the antonym of Authority.<br /><br /><br />Bestlocumranchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-75277941254014818032014-03-28T15:40:59.811-07:002014-03-28T15:40:59.811-07:00Both Israel and Saudi Arabia face significant issu...Both Israel and Saudi Arabia face significant issues if the US manages a detente with Iran. Our actions could force the two nations to work together a bit in mutual recognition of the potential threat from Iran. This is actually in the best interests of the US as long as things don't get overheated. We don't want anyone over there to count too much or too little on us helping them when needed and we don't want them unifying against us. It's a balancing game we learned from the British and previous empires.Alfred Differnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-90598124910192475322014-03-28T14:18:55.123-07:002014-03-28T14:18:55.123-07:00I probably don't need to explicate, but it'...I probably don't need to explicate, but it's the combination of horizontal drilling and fracking which is the game changer, as Mungo inferred. Israel as a huge energy exporter would be one such.<br />http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Israel-May-Hold-The-Worlds-Third-Largest-Reserve-Of-Shale-Oil.html<br /><br />If we find enough of this we can just strip the hydrogen off of it and use that. I'd like to see it. This would also supply a "look on locumrich's face" which would be worth paying admission.Jumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794110173836133321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-83160878038360237942014-03-28T13:05:40.414-07:002014-03-28T13:05:40.414-07:00Since, Obama is meeting the Saudi's right now,...Since, Obama is meeting the Saudi's right now, it is timely to review the relationship between the US and the Saudis. If the Saudis have really hijacked part of the US media and foreign policy, how does that square with US support for Israel? Or, is it in both Israel's and the Saudi's interest to keep things in perpetual strife in the Middle East because it empowers both countries, keeps their citizenry in-line and provides a covert backdrop to keeping the Shia's under control? I am having a hard time understanding this.<br />Michael Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-45696269879110039112014-03-28T11:40:54.201-07:002014-03-28T11:40:54.201-07:00Destroying our globe-spanning civilization won'...Destroying our globe-spanning civilization won't fix climate issues unless you also cull humanity to under half a billion people or so. Our civilization is the only thing preventing billions from having a much more damaging impact on the planet than we already do.<br /><br />Anyone who wants to suggest such a culling can step up. Many of us will happily beat them to a pulp and then get back to our lives of trying to do something useful.<br /><br /><br />Regarding common currencies and a new reserve currency, there is the pesky problem with the fact thta sharing currencies tends to entangle nation's fiscal policies. Show me a group of nations large enough to matter on the economic level who are also willing to get entangled with each other that way and I'll consider worrying about it. They are already entangled with us due to the way USD's get used in global trade, but we are relatively benign in our demands.Alfred Differnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-72483650798409004222014-03-28T11:03:58.440-07:002014-03-28T11:03:58.440-07:00Russia & Saudi Arabia are fading powers made l...Russia & Saudi Arabia are fading powers made largely irrelevant by a shifting geopolitical axis that favours exhaustible resources, Smithian economics and interdependence to an irrational degree ... weaknesses that we all share.<br /><br />Rather than intervene (and thereby become complicit) in their inevitable death spasm, we should sit back, distance ourselves and allow them both to go to hell under their own power, lest we share their fate (the inevitable fate of all nations) in a more immediate fashion.<br /><br />The Pentagon has the right to be concerned, not because of Russian Aggression or Climate Change, but because it becomes increasingly apparent that our great globe-spanning civilization cannot overcome internal divisiveness without (the unifying effect of) omnipresent threat, whether that threat be manufactured, real or imagined, which is exactly what WAR -- huh, yeah -- is absolutely 'good for'.<br /><br />And, similarly, Climate Change is good for 'absolutely nothing', uh-huh, because combatting it -- making climate change the great 'unifying threat' -- would favour cultural fracture, local resource affluence & economic independence and speed the death of our great globe-spanning interdependent culture.<br /><br />That's the true Elephant-in-the-Room: <br /><br />The cure for Climate Change requires the destruction of our great interdependent globe-spanning civilization.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Bestlocumranchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-27260029537949606472014-03-28T10:37:05.559-07:002014-03-28T10:37:05.559-07:00Musical Pi, anyone?
http://www.iflscience.com/phy...Musical Pi, anyone?<br /><br />http://www.iflscience.com/physics/musician-composes-pi-song-piano<br /><br />Rob H.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-14772207035185587992014-03-28T09:41:58.639-07:002014-03-28T09:41:58.639-07:00Jumper,
the game has already changed. I used to w...Jumper,<br />the game has already changed. I used to work for a company that made directional drilling equipment used for fracking. Russian companies were our biggest customers; this goes back to 2008 at least. Mungonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-19568348887253574602014-03-28T08:56:23.710-07:002014-03-28T08:56:23.710-07:00Fracking is a game changer.
http://www.bloomberg....Fracking is a game changer. <br />http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-18/russia-adopts-texas-drilling-to-revive-soviet-oil-fields-energy.htmlJumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794110173836133321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-35031653342028479182014-03-28T07:58:42.876-07:002014-03-28T07:58:42.876-07:00A harbinger?
Sanctioned Russian Bank Shuts US Acc...A harbinger?<br /><br />Sanctioned Russian Bank Shuts US Accounts To "Protect" Russian Clients<br />http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-28/sanctioned-russian-bank-shuts-us-accounts-protect-russian-clientsTom Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444476865484424912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-82888807551972998832014-03-28T07:54:09.642-07:002014-03-28T07:54:09.642-07:00Very good points Robert...
but for at least some...Very good points Robert... <br /><br />but for at least some counter-argument... a considerable portion of the Bric country problems you refer to are actually connected to monetary issues (rather than physical constraints) which could be lessened by abandoning the dollar standard.<br /><br />Though I'd agree that alone would not end the dollar...<br /><br />That's an outcome it may well accomplish all by itself. Tom Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444476865484424912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-75048835781945578042014-03-28T07:27:42.988-07:002014-03-28T07:27:42.988-07:00In case you're interested, your old alma mater...In case you're interested, your old alma mater, UCSD, is offering a free on-line course on climate change.<br /><br />Info can be found here: https://www.coursera.org/course/4dimensions<br /><br />A.F. ReyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-51001419029342431562014-03-28T07:05:40.485-07:002014-03-28T07:05:40.485-07:00Unfortunately, that runs into a problem because Ru...Unfortunately, that runs into a problem because Russia's economy is based significantly on the export of fossil fuels, Brazil's economy has stumbled hard, China's economy is sinking as they try to turn their population into their customers (and it's not working to the extent they would like), Iran is shunned by half the world and its weak economy depends on Russia (which lacks a significant economy) and China (whose economy is, as I mentioned, starting to flare out)... and India is in the midst of a growing social problem concerning the treatment of its women and the widescale corruption of its government.<br /><br />If these countries tried to create a BRIC Currency, it would plummet in value compared to the Dollar and while countries would use it, they'd not see it as a reserve currency. They'd see it as just another euro.<br /><br />The U.S. has some massive problems. But all countries do. The advantage of the U.S. outweigh its disadvantages. This cannot be said for the nations you mentioned.Acacia H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07678539067303911329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-85556656542248407502014-03-28T06:38:53.924-07:002014-03-28T06:38:53.924-07:00Very interesting re the role of Saudi Arabia... an...Very interesting re the role of Saudi Arabia... and the Russia, Syria, Iran connections.<br /><br />I have a feeling that same defense establishment... as well as foreign policy and economic policy makers are also aware of another... perhaps even more significant issue (if such a thing is possible!)...<br /><br />If Russia, China, Iran, India, Brazil and a few others get together and decide to abandon the dollar standard and create an alternative or use one of these nation's existing currencies... <br /><br />Its a game changer w/o firing a shot...<br /><br />Between their collective capacities in energy and manufacturing... they may find that they can pull that off easier than we think.<br /><br />Moreover there's a growing international frustration with how Western banking may not have been so beneficial for many of these countries (and the Middle class in this one) which may help that along.<br /><br />I seriously doubt that their 'new' standard will be any better in the long run... <br /><br />But the failure of Western banking should be recognized as a greater threat to the Western World than it apparently is by the Establishment.<br /><br />And its failure to address its spectacular short comings...<br /><br />Is the best friend the enemies of the West could ever hope for.Tom Crowlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04444476865484424912noreply@blogger.com