tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post5180672910665663572..comments2024-03-28T14:07:18.682-07:00Comments on CONTRARY BRIN: Cheating and change... and clues about the Iran and NK wars.David Brinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-14296565302965613792018-01-20T16:19:59.731-08:002018-01-20T16:19:59.731-08:00onward
(And thanks Randy and Ilithi Dragon, for y...onward<br /><br />(And thanks Randy and Ilithi Dragon, for your service! God bless our "deep state" public servants.)<br /><br />onwardDavid Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-58743511407080376672018-01-20T15:33:03.330-08:002018-01-20T15:33:03.330-08:00Ilithi Drago, upthread, said:
"As for having...Ilithi Drago, upthread, said:<br /><br />"As for having the Commander-in-Chief be replaced by a Congress-in-Chief... No. That is a disastrous idea. Military chain-of-command exists for a reason, and they do not include any kind of committee. If a critical decision has to be made, we can't afford to wait for Congress to convene for a vote, debate the vote, make the vote, and then stalemate over partisan BS for a year-and-a-half."<br /><br />This is pretty much what we had under the Articles of Confederation: a nation run by Congress, with no President. It was, as we all learn in history class, so unwieldy and ineffective to run a central government this way, that it was replaced by the Constitution in less than a decade, with the first presidential election soon after.TCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08153506222271955110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-36193205912306206582018-01-20T15:04:22.096-08:002018-01-20T15:04:22.096-08:00Jon S:
Turns out the shutdown won't affect th...Jon S:<br /><i><br />Turns out the shutdown won't affect the Mueller investigation, though. Special Investigations are considered among the "essential government services" that don't get shut down.<br /></i><br /><br />I never thought it would, but I could believe <b>Trump</b> thought it might. <br /><br />NoOne:<br /><i><br />The essential worry is that the Democrats are going to be blamed for this shutdown by linking DACA to the budget bill. <br />...<br />This could go badly for the Democrats and hurt them in the midterms <br /></i><br /><br />That's my essential worry too. There's been a blue wave building, and I hope this doesn't scuttle it. I hope Schumer and the other Democratic leaders had a good finger on the public pulse before they went this route, and weren't just hot to please the San Francisco base.<br /><br /><i><br />(but thankfully fivethirtyeight disagrees saying that shutdowns don't seem to affect midterms).<br /></i><br /><br />It certainly didn't hurt the Republicans in 2014. Everyone blamed the Repubs for the Ted Cruz-inspired shutdown, and yet they took the Senate in the next election. May history repeat itself in an equal and opposite manner.<br /><br /><i><br />Note that anti-Trumpers like National Review have joined Trump in blaming Schumer for this shutdown <br /></i><br /><br />It occurs to me that, for years now, the two parties have been acting less like fellow citizens and more like warring factions. I mean literally at war, not simply uninterested in the other's goals, but actually working to harm the other. I'm sure the FOX-bubble crowd finds some way to blame Democrats for that situation, but to me, the declaration of war came from Mitch McConnell and his stated goal of making President Obama a one-term president via obstruction. Democrats <b>must</b> engage in the war, as you don't stop a war by unilaterally refusing to fight it.<br /><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-14447274910641927732018-01-20T14:40:46.815-08:002018-01-20T14:40:46.815-08:00Congress had an agreement to pass a CR with DACA (...Congress had an agreement to pass a CR with DACA (which both parties want) and CHIP, and Trump deliberately and maliciously scuttled it. He, and he alone, deserves the blame.Zepp Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16261339498383415026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-66658740654263104492018-01-20T14:34:35.776-08:002018-01-20T14:34:35.776-08:00The essential worry is that the Democrats are goin...The essential worry is that the Democrats are going to be blamed for this shutdown by linking DACA to the budget bill. Note that anti-Trumpers like National Review have joined Trump in blaming Schumer for this shutdown (http://www.schumershutdown.com). This could go badly for the Democrats and hurt them in the midterms (but thankfully fivethirtyeight disagrees saying that shutdowns don't seem to affect midterms).NoOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08685249095572192084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-79212994576701248052018-01-20T10:59:43.934-08:002018-01-20T10:59:43.934-08:00Turns out the shutdown won't affect the Muelle...Turns out the shutdown won't affect the Mueller investigation, though. Special Investigations are considered among the "essential government services" that don't get shut down.Jon S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13585842845661267920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-41349382252354148462018-01-20T09:38:49.034-08:002018-01-20T09:38:49.034-08:00Why didn't the congress just pass the Graham/D...Why didn't the congress just pass the Graham/Durbin compromise bill regardless of Trump's tweets? I don't see how Trump was allowed to derail a bi-partisan agreement, unless the Republicans in congress really did want to shut down the government, and their only problem with it is avoiding the blame.<br /><br />To the notion that <i>Democrats</i> are holding up the continuing resolution, the only credible blame Democrats can take is for a filibuster, because the only way they even got to a bare majority 50 votes is with a few Democrats helping to offset the <b>four Republicans</b> who voted nay. And if Republicans really wanted to overcome Democratic obstruction, they could have nuclear-optioned the filibuster for legislation just as they did for Neil Gorsuch. So again, the bill didn't pass because Republicans don't really want it to--they just don't want the blame for it failing.<br /><br />Hey, Hal Sparks on his radio show just proposed (this very minute as I type) that maybe Trump wants a government shutdown because that might somehow stop the Mueller investigation. Makes as much sense as anything.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-28003771229500148922018-01-20T09:22:48.949-08:002018-01-20T09:22:48.949-08:00Randall Winn:
Monday I shall be working for you (...Randall Winn:<br /><i><br />Monday I shall be working for you (if you're American) for free, if the #Trumpshutdown continues. No need to thank me. <br /></i><br /><br />If you don't mind my asking, I've wondered what would happen to you (or others in similar position) if you didn't show up to work for free. Can you be fired for that? <b>Would</b> you be fired for that?<br /><br /><i><br />What is the excuse of Trump supporters for their cruelty?<br /></i><br /><br />Do they need one? Seems to me they're not ashamed of it, but proud.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-38299784202042905062018-01-20T07:50:34.434-08:002018-01-20T07:50:34.434-08:00Ah...I thought I remembered something like this (e...Ah...I thought I remembered something like this (emphasis mine) ...<br /><br />http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/369884-mcconnell-take-hard-line-after-failed-shutdown-vote<br /><br /><i><br />Forty-five Republicans and five Democrats backed the bill, while 44 Democrats and four Republicans opposed it in addition to <b>McConnell, who cast a "no" vote for procedural reasons to preserve his right to bring the bill up again.</b><br /></i>LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-91732608660702618122018-01-20T07:40:50.972-08:002018-01-20T07:40:50.972-08:00Monday I shall be working for you (if you're A...Monday I shall be working for you (if you're American) for free, if the #Trumpshutdown continues. No need to thank me. The fascists set this up by refusing even to vote on the bipartisan DREAM bill, and I don't mind a bit of sacrifice on behalf of 700,000 people who came here as children.<br /><br />The Trump supporters among my immediate family unfriended me because they couldn't stand being contradicted, so I can't ask them at what point a 5-year-old child (now a DREAMER) becomes a criminal: when her mother approaches the border or immediately after?<br />Under what possible theory do they think that 5-year-old should say, "Mommy, I am leaving you because it's illegal to enter the United States."<br /><br />That's what we're talking about. That 5-year-old grew up here and is now 25 and working somewhere, and my fascist friends and families want to send her back to a nation she never knew to be absorbed. How she would then live we can only imagine. On this basis alone I call Trump supporters cruel.<br /><br />This is all on purpose. Trump cancelled DACA six months ago and the Republican leadership in Congress refuses to allow a vote on DREAMER reform - it would pass if they allowed a vote, but they are cruel people. They should have re-authorized CHIP four months ago, but they are cruel people. Now they are holding CHIP hostage to their DACA cruelty and demanding the Democrats (and a few Republican allies) to make a Sophie's choice: CHIP children or DACA children.<br /><br />It is a fine distraction from them picking your pockets and deflecting from Russia's continuing attack on America. We are <i>losing the information war with Russia</i> because our current leadership are fellow travelers.<br /><br />My sacrifice is small, and I'll probably end up being paid anyway. Don't worry about me. I am content never to be deliberately be a part of cruelty.<br /><br />What is the excuse of Trump supporters for their cruelty?rewinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14008105385364113371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-25104193995355408782018-01-20T06:31:24.238-08:002018-01-20T06:31:24.238-08:00As for escape and survivability, while the classic...<br />As for escape and survivability, while the classic sci-fi escape pod is not a viable option for submarines (we're basically underwater zeppelins, so the added weight is a huge concern, plus the myriad of engineering challenges and other problems of having that many extra holes in the people tank), we do have escape and survival systems. We have numerous emergency systems to keep the crew alive in the event the ship sinks but the pressure hull remains intact (a disabled submarine, or dissub situation). In such situations, if conditions in the ship permit, the preferred course of action is to await rescue (there are various deep-water rescue systems that can dock with our escape trunks to rescue personnel from disabled submarines). If conditions aboard the ship do not permit us to stay and await rescue, we also have escape suits that we can don and use to evacuate the ship via the two escape trunks (which double as regular access hatches on the surface), though there are limits to the depth at which we can evacuate in that manner and have a reasonable expectation of surviving to the surface.<br /><br />In all reality, though, unless we are fortunate enough to sink on a continental shelf, if the boat goes down, we're all going to die. There are only a handful of purpose-built, deep-submergence research and salvage submarines that can actually dive all the way to the bottom of the ocean, not even going into any of the trenches. If we sink to the bottom of the ocean, we'll go past crush depth, and the boat will collapse, and we'll all die. End of story.<br /><br />Which is why there is such a huge emphasis on ensuring that doesn't happen, and why we have back-ups for the back-ups for the back-ups for any critical system, and why the Navy's nuclear and SubSafe QA system is the best Quality Assurance system in the world.<br /><br /><br />Dr. Brin:<br />I really like the boat I'm on. We're the "old school" class in the fleet these days, so we're not bleeding edge, but we're also thoroughly tested and proven. It's also fascinating to see what we were able to do with 1960s and 70s technology (when the first 688s/Los Angeles classes were launched), even with the 1980s revamp that the 688i-boats got. My torpedo tubes use a <i>mechanical logic circuit</i> to check and engage various interlocks and shoot the tube during the firing sequence.Ilithi Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10300247936272572280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-92143875030035433612018-01-20T06:31:13.034-08:002018-01-20T06:31:13.034-08:00Winter:
In the planning/development/etc. phases, ...Winter:<br /><br />In the planning/development/etc. phases, multiple heads are better than one, even then, the requirements of military actions/evolutions/etc. often require decision-making on fairly short timescales, too short for a committee to hammer out The Best or The Most Acceptable Solution (TM) to the committee/congress, and a single Man-in-Charge is required to coordinate and direct things, both locally on the small scale, and on the grand scale.<br /><br />One of the key points of the US military is that the Commander-in-Chief is an [i]elected civilian[/i]. That was one of the key requirements and a moment of brilliant forethought the framers of the constitution put in. The President, the Commander-and-Chief of the entire US military, CANNOT be in the military.<br /><br />Furthermore, while the President is the CiC, the President is not a dictator, and does not have supreme, unquestionable, unchallengeable power. The President, like everyone else, is subject to the set of laws that govern our country, just as the military, while under the command of the President, is subject to the set of laws that govern the military (specifically, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, or UCMJ). The captain of my ship has broad powers and authority in many things, but he is still subject to military and Navy regulations, and the UCMJ. We are not subject to the President, we are under the command of the President. We are subject to the Constitution of the United States, Federal laws, and the UCMJ (and sometimes state and local laws, but their applicability varies by circumstance).<br /><br />On sonar:<br /><br />Surface ships don't constantly run active sonar, because it gives away their position as much as it does for a submarine. They are less concerned about not being seen than we are, but going active increases their detection range, so unless they're hunting subs, they're not going to be pounding away constantly.<br /><br />When hunting subs, there's not much that can be done to change the damage to marine life. There is no new "super sonar" that is particularly damaging to marine life (that is news media connecting two dots that aren't actually related). ANY sonar system, that is sufficiently loud, will cause damage to marine life. Hell, Dr. Brin's own books give examples of how MARINE LIFE uses its own natural sonar to damage/stun other marine life. Some sonars aren't very loud, but they have limited use and/or range. Any sonar that is going to give you noticeable range is going to be so loud that it will damage marine life that is in sufficient proximity (like an explosion, the severity of injury depends on your proximity to the source). <br /><br /><br />The sinking of the Kursk didn't affect our security procedures. The Kursk sank because of poor quality control on Russian dummy/exercise torpedoes, that allowed the high-test peroxide fuel to leak out and explode (triggering a fire that caused an even larger explosion, probably the warheads of her live torpedo loadout). <br /><br />The Kursk was an Oscar-II class, built at the end of the Soviet Union. She wasn't bleeding edge, even at the time, though the leak of technical information to the US was probably a concern for the Russians. Personally, I think it was more a national pride/political appearance move. They didn't want to be seen going to the Brits or the Norwegians for help, but rather to solve it themselves.Ilithi Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10300247936272572280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-61393211089176000652018-01-20T06:04:16.440-08:002018-01-20T06:04:16.440-08:00Today being the anniversary and all, I feel oblige...Today being the anniversary and all, I feel obliged to point out that as of noon today, there are 1096 days remaining until Inauguration 2021.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-84661431181687525482018-01-20T05:27:51.928-08:002018-01-20T05:27:51.928-08:00@Dr Brin,
Bad enough that the fact that Pussy Gal...@Dr Brin,<br /><br />Bad enough that the fact that Pussy Galore is a lesbian went right over my head for many decades until I actually read the book. You're telling me I missed Goldfinger being Jewish too???<br /><br />* * * <br /><br />BTW, I had occasion to watch the very first Adam West "Batman" episode to feature Julie Newmar as Catwoman and saw a line I never noticed before. She says to her gang that, once they've found the treasure they're looking for, "We'll be in pussywillows galore." The episode would have first aired in 1966, just a few years after the movie <i>Goldfinger</i>, so I'm sure that line was neither happenstance nor coincidence.<br /><br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-59178543035360333552018-01-19T21:28:09.932-08:002018-01-19T21:28:09.932-08:00Ilithi Dragon, thanks for getting me to look up “6...Ilithi Dragon, thanks for getting me to look up “688i” Fascinating! And thanks for your service and skill. Stay safe. God Bless the US Navy.<br /><br />"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times? That's enemy action." — Goldfinger. The finest of all Jewish villains.<br /><br />David Brinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14465315130418506525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-14913697103042450512018-01-19T20:42:15.157-08:002018-01-19T20:42:15.157-08:00Alfred Differ:
¡People on fire! ¡By Quetzalcoatl !...Alfred Differ:<br />¡People on fire! ¡By Quetzalcoatl !. You probably have nightmares because of that incident.<br />When trying something dangerous, it is difficult to know if everything will turn out well.<br />There are risks and costs to action. But they are far less than the long range risks of comfortable inaction. <br />But if something goes terribly wrong; ¿Would not it be nice to have a time machine?<br /> <br />¡See you later!<br />Winter7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16829856315044551289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-43306445124546898542018-01-19T20:26:57.187-08:002018-01-19T20:26:57.187-08:00Ilithi Dragon:
It is certainly convenient that on...Ilithi Dragon:<br /> It is certainly convenient that only one person commands an army. (Under certain restrictions)<br /> As for the sonar:<br /> But boats, on the surface, do use active sonar continuously! ¿True? That is, when the submarine hunt begins. And it is those who have the new system, not the submarines.<br /> In another matter: I imagine that the security procedures were modified after the K-141 accident.<br /> I have always thought that it is absurd not to have escape pods in a war submarine, but, of course, that reduces space and adds weight. But if I designed a submarine, the submarine would have escape pods. (And a very different impulse system) (But I do not explain how it is, because the Russians could listen.) 8)<br />¿Do not you suspect that the Russians preferred to let the crew die rather than allow you to perform a rescue, because that would have compromised the secret of Kursk technology?<br /> Do not allow you to have an oxygen tank in your room? (And thick neoprene suits)<br /> If they allowed that (I doubt it) it would be good, because in case of an accident, they could take more time until they are rescued. And in all sections of the submarine should have an emergency transmitter connected outdoors) (with different options of communication systems). But I understand that it is impossible to reach a submarine and altering the discipline with innovations could cause problems with the bosses and with the rest of the team.<br />Bye!Winter7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16829856315044551289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-82567830922972343462018-01-19T20:14:55.290-08:002018-01-19T20:14:55.290-08:00Looks like a government shutdown is inevitable now...Looks like a government shutdown is inevitable now, at least for a short while. I hope the Democratic leadership accurately gauged the citizen response to this, and that blowback doesn't stymie the Democratic wave.<br /><br />Interesting that 4 Republicans, including Lindsay Graham and Rand Paul voted against the measure (that is, for the shutdown), which means that even without a filibuster, the measure would have failed but for the five Democrats who voted for it (against the shutdown). To me, that makes it harder to blame Democrats for the failure, but of course, I'm not inside the FOX bubble.<br /><br />More interesting, two Republicans haven't voted at all. One is McCain who is sick in a hospital in Arizona, but the other is Mitch McConnell himself. I forget why, but I know there's some procedural reason he might vote "no" to allow him to bring the matter up again. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I remember Harry Reid having to do that sometimes.<br /><br />I wonder why the congress couldn't have just gone ahead with the Lindsay Graham/Dick Durbin deal, passed the thing, and dared Trump to veto it. I'm quite confused as to how Trump's "s###hole countries" tantrum was allowed to derail a bipartisan deal in congress.<br /><br />Guess we'll know more in the future, because I'm about to use Ilithi's time-travel method to jump eight hours ahead.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-57350387755121729952018-01-19T19:45:55.866-08:002018-01-19T19:45:55.866-08:00Ilithi Dragon:
And now it is time for me to engag...Ilithi Dragon:<br /><i><br />And now it is time for me to engage the super-advanced, hyper-sophisticated time machine the military has developed, called "Rack-to-the-Future." Here's how it works: You go to the rack. You lie down. You go to sleep. You wake up. It's the future!<br /></i><br /><br />Heh. I've maintained for some time that sleep is indistinguishable from forward time travel. Even more so in the cases of Rip Van Winkle or Captain America.<br /><br />Then again, we already know that forward time travel is possible when one achieves significant fractions of light speed.<br /><br />Forward time travel presents no paradoxes that I can think of. It's <b>backward</b> time travel that gets messy (and interesting).<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-86857460069799241562018-01-19T18:23:38.617-08:002018-01-19T18:23:38.617-08:00@Jon S | That was just poor design on someone'...@Jon S | <i>That was just poor design on someone's part</i><br /><br />yah. LPTA work?<br />I should have been drowned for some of the early software I wrote. 8)<br /><br /><br />(lowest price, technically acceptable)Alfred Differhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01170159981105973192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-54203616114476437322018-01-19T18:05:50.574-08:002018-01-19T18:05:50.574-08:00@winter7 | A message to cancel the alert was issue...@winter7 | <i>A message to cancel the alert was issued 38 minutes later. That is an illogical delay.</i><br /><br />Well.... not really. You'd have to do that kind of work to understand where the time goes. I've done some pretty stupid things as an IT worker and caused mayhem for others near me and not noticed until they were running around with their hair on fire AND screaming AND doing so close by. I could tell you a story about how I learned not to write poorly phrased SQL statements with joins in them, but I think the statute of limitations on that error is quite long.<br /><br />Never underestimate the oblivious co-worker. The unintentional harm they can do with a few keystrokes is impressive. Those of us who write UI's are supposed to remember that, but it is a lesson learned over and over. Think of what an overly complex layout for a control panel at a nuclear power station can help precipitate and we will be right back to Duncan's time travel concerns. 8)Alfred Differhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01170159981105973192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-66208375938930484162018-01-19T17:40:38.971-08:002018-01-19T17:40:38.971-08:00Jon S:
Yes, of course the meat is turned into ven...Jon S:<br /><br />Yes, of course the meat is turned into venison, and I understand the distinction between people who hunt just to kill and leave the carcass to rot, vs people who actually use it. Winter's distinction, however, was not between people who hunted and used the meat vs people who didn't, but rather between people who NEEDED to hunt to provide food vs people who didn't. My family has never needed to hunt to provide food, and under Winter's self-admitted generalization, we all would have been lumped in with poachers, etc.<br /><br />Winter: I've got a few different notebooks and word documents with notes and lore and rough-draft story writing scattered around, and my best friend and I are actually running a forum-based RPG centered in a story universe we're both working on, to help flesh out some details and backstory, etc. (I actually asked if anyone here was interested in participating, about a year ago, but most declined due to a lack of time).<br /><br />I work on a 688i boat, a third-flight Los Angeles class. There are stark limits as to what I can talk about regarding the boat on social media, so that's about all I can tell you. <br /><br />Most of what you said regarding sonar and your recommendations for ultimate command of the military falling to congress is wrong. There is no super-sonar that is particularly damaging to marine life. And there is no active sonar that would NOT be damaging to marine life. ALL active sonar of sufficient power is damaging to marine life. That's because active sonar is just a pulse of sound, and any sufficiently loud / powerful pulse of sound is a pressure wave. Any sufficiently powerful pressure wave, especially in a dense fluid like sea water, will cause trauma to soft tissue. Doesn't matter what kind of sonar it is, if it's loud enough, it will rupture eardrums, pop lungs, and smash or rupture hollow organs and other soft tissue. The effects are basically the same as throwing a stick of dynamite into the water, because the mechanism is exactly the same, just varying in intensity and duration.<br /><br />Fortunately for the environment, this isn't nearly as big of a problem as it is made out to be, because for submarines, at least, the whole point of the game is to be undetected. Our job is to do our best impression of a silent hole in the water, so we almost never go active, because active sonar is loud, and noise gives away our position.<br /><br /><br /><br />As for having the Commander-in-Chief be replaced by a Congress-in-Chief... No. That is a disastrous idea. Military chain-of-command exists for a reason, and they do not include any kind of committee. If a critical decision has to be made, we can't afford to wait for Congress to convene for a vote, debate the vote, make the vote, and then stalemate over partisan BS for a year-and-a-half. <br /><br /><br />Congress does have a lot of control over the military, as a number of high-level things require congressional approval, and Congress controls the budget (and the military uses committees of varying sorts for many non-chain-of-command things/group tasks/etc.), and ultimately the military is subject to Congress because, while the military falls under the command of the President as the Commander-in-Chief, the military is still ultimately subject to and governed by law, which is set by Congress, and we are not bound to follow unlawful orders (and in certain extreme cases, bound to disobey them). <br /><br /><br />Larry:<br /><br />I think the specific phrase/quote you're looking for is: "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times? That's enemy action."<br /><br /><br /><br />And now it is time for me to engage the super-advanced, hyper-sophisticated time machine the military has developed, called "Rack-to-the-Future." Here's how it works: You go to the rack. You lie down. You go to sleep. You wake up. It's the future! :D <i>Magic!</i> :DIlithi Dragonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-6607645905756969842018-01-19T17:21:23.200-08:002018-01-19T17:21:23.200-08:00In politics, at least, stupidity and malice often ...In politics, at least, stupidity and malice often go hand-in-hand.Zepp Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16261339498383415026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-77858622805997371852018-01-19T17:10:51.974-08:002018-01-19T17:10:51.974-08:00Jon S:
Remember Hanlon's Razor - "Never ...Jon S:<br /><i><br />Remember Hanlon's Razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."<br /></i><br /><br />That doesn't hold when there is plenty of evidence of malice already. If it's a coin flip, you might be better off betting on "stupidity" over "malice", but when the metaphorical dice are already loaded in favor of "malice", you ignore those odds at your peril.<br />LarryHartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8587336.post-19310132579542384692018-01-19T16:42:19.288-08:002018-01-19T16:42:19.288-08:00Jon S:
And in the future, genetic manipulation wil...Jon S:<br />And in the future, genetic manipulation will probably make many species intelligent, which will unleash a fight for the rights of transgenic animals ... ¿What to call the new species? ¿How could we consider deer animals, if they become intelligent because of the intervention of science? Hunting could be totally prohibited under those circumstances.<br />Of course, a quadruped or a bird could not create technology, but under certain circumstances ...<br />Fortunately, David Brin already touched on that subject in his books.<br />Bye!<br />Winter7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16829856315044551289noreply@blogger.com